November 28th, 2005, 05:59 AM
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POD: Social Security
Which of the following best describes the financial situation of Social Security today?
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November 28th, 2005, 06:47 AM
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Don't touch my tail!
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Kind of a played topic I guess, but it was a topic of discussion over the weekend with some family members, and I was not able to do much net browsing this weekend... So I polled what was the only topic I had... They'll get better, I hope... 
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November 28th, 2005, 06:50 AM
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lol...its a solid topic - but alot of folks have to get over the 'mondays' first. 
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November 28th, 2005, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CardFan67
Which of the following best describes the financial situation of Social Security today?
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Define crisis and then I'll respond to the poll.
No question the financial state of SS is at minimum in serious trouble, depending upon definition perhaps crisis! If not addressed and modified SS will not be able to meet it's committments. Fact is, the longer we (i.e. - U.S. citizenry in general, U.S. Congress in particular) argue about the extent of the problem and delay in pursuing a remedy the more significant the problem becomes.
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November 28th, 2005, 08:35 AM
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It either needs to go away or the age limit needs to be raised since people are living longer.
It was set up to help those who lived longer than the life expectancy rates of the time.
It was never intended to be something you cashed in on as retirement income.
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November 28th, 2005, 08:39 AM
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Not quite a "crisis" yet but it is clear that the program is in trouble.
It is flawed to begin with. I am not sure how long it will last.
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November 28th, 2005, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SirChaz
It is flawed to begin with. I am not sure how long it will last.
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Our generation wont get it. That is a fact.
A communist ideal in a democracy is bound to fail. Especially when soley dependant upon reasonable economic intelligence. Something neither the left nor the right has.
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November 28th, 2005, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CardLogic
Define crisis and then I'll respond to the poll.
No question the financial state of SS is at minimum in serious trouble, depending upon definition perhaps crisis! If not addressed and modified SS will not be able to meet it's committments. Fact is, the longer we (i.e. - U.S. citizenry in general, U.S. Congress in particular) argue about the extent of the problem and delay in pursuing a remedy the more significant the problem becomes.
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Main Entry: cri·sis
Pronunciation: 'krI-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural cri·ses /'krI-"sEz/
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, from Greek krisis, literally, decision, from krinein to decide -- more at CERTAIN
a : an unstable or crucial time or state of affairs in which a decisive change is impending; especially : one with the distinct possibility of a highly undesirable outcome <a financial crisis>
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November 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM
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swd,your generation does'nt really want it.At least the really dumb ones don't.The smart ones are thinking how much easier to plan for retirement with SS involved.
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November 28th, 2005, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenCard
swd,your generation does'nt really want it.At least the really dumb ones don't.The smart ones are thinking how much easier to plan for retirement with SS involved.
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I wont need it, but Im not asking not to get it. Ill take every dollar available.
The baby boomers will suck it dry and we will have paid in but not get back.
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November 28th, 2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenCard
swd,your generation does'nt really want it.At least the really dumb ones don't.The smart ones are thinking how much easier to plan for retirement with SS involved.
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I tend to think only the really dumb think there will be anything left to draw at all.
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November 28th, 2005, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AzCards21
I tend to think only the really dumb think there will be anything left to draw at all.
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I don't think any of it is "dumb"... That is another one of those words I find to be overly harsh and probably should not be used too frequently... hopeful would probably be the correct term... I doubt I will be able to draw on it myself, and I am no spring chicken, but I certainly am hopeful that there will be something in there, at least as much as I have put in...
I wish they would just give me what I put in and let me invest it myself... (there goes that hopeful in place of dumb again - because that wish is "hopeful" to say the least)
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November 28th, 2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CardFan67
I don't think any of it is "dumb"... That is another one of those words I find to be overly harsh and probably should not be used too frequently... hopeful would probably be the correct term... I doubt I will be able to draw on it myself, and I am no spring chicken, but I certainly am hopeful that there will be something in there, at least as much as I have put in...
I wish they would just give me what I put in and let me invest it myself... (there goes that hopeful in place of dumb again - because that wish is "hopeful" to say the least)
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That's exactly what I want. It'll never happen but one could be "optomistically foolish" (hows that!? lol!).
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November 28th, 2005, 03:57 PM
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If you guys think education is expensive,try ignorance.
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November 28th, 2005, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenCard
If you guys think education is expensive,try ignorance.
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Better yet, try living off the BS the government is feeding you.
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