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View Poll Results: Denver passed a law banning pit bulls: Either get rid of the dog or move out of town.
That's just fine with me. They're bred for fighting only and they're dangerous. 9 23.68%
It's a bit Draconian, but public safety must come before owning a pet. 5 13.16%
The law seems over the top. Deal with animals on a case-by-case basis. 22 57.89%
Stupid and a total violation of civil liberties! What next? 2 5.26%
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:30 AM   #1
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:35 AM   #2
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Your vicious dog gets out of YOUR control and F's something up - someone's pet, child etc - it as if YOU did it.
Assault, battery, manslaughter or animal cruelty - the dog is an extension of YOU.
Vicious dogs are for carlots and junkyards, not a status symbol for guys with "issues".
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:49 AM   #3
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Your vicious dog gets out of YOUR control and F's something up - someone's pet, child etc - it as if YOU did it.
If you are looking for an argument with this one, you'll have to change the subject.

I have never met anyone with a pit bull, or variation thereof , who I would care to live in the same neighborhood with. I get the desire to shoot them when I see them. The dogs too.

P.S. I also don't like pet crocodiles.
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM   #4
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My dog is half pit and half chow.

I've always made sure to keep her fenced and post a dog warning sign on the gate - as well as a pad lock.

Jump over my gate and you'll find that me dog will probably lick yer face and probably want to play catch.

But in those random moments she bites ya - your responsible for your actions.

If yer my guest - I'm responsible.
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:57 AM   #5
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Where is the ACLU? Don’t Pit bulls have the same rights as any other breed of dog?
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:59 AM   #6
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Where is the ACLU? Don’t Pit bulls have the same rights as any other breed of dog?
LOL. Wouldn't be surprised to see them get in on this one.
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Old October 28th, 2005, 09:28 AM   #7
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Breeding dogs to be vicious ought to be a crime.

The real probelm with Pit Bulls is the lake of pedigree. You have no idea is the parents, grandparents ... were breed as attack dogs or were cute and friendly.

I have known many friendly Pit Bulls but some are bred to be vicious, they select the nasty parents they ca and go from there. This should be illegal
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Old October 28th, 2005, 09:34 AM   #8
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My dog is half pit and half chow.

I've always made sure to keep her fenced and post a dog warning sign on the gate - as well as a pad lock.

Jump over my gate and you'll find that me dog will probably lick yer face and probably want to play catch.

But in those random moments she bites ya - your responsible for your actions.

If yer my guest - I'm responsible.
Fair enough - secured behind YOUR fence in YOUR yard.
Tresspassers, cops and firemen beware....
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Old October 28th, 2005, 09:41 AM   #9
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Fair enough - secured behind YOUR fence in YOUR yard.
Tresspassers, cops and firemen beware....
Why would a cop or a bunch of firemen want to play catch with my dog?
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Old October 28th, 2005, 10:04 AM   #10
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Breeding dogs to be vicious ought to be a crime.

The real probelm with Pit Bulls is the lake of pedigree. You have no idea is the parents, grandparents ... were breed as attack dogs or were cute and friendly.

I have known many friendly Pit Bulls but some are bred to be vicious, they select the nasty parents they ca and go from there. This should be illegal
I completely agree. Once they are from that fighting type of pedigree it is hard to break, regardless of how you personally treat the dog. Many Pit Bulls have been bread for fighting so the dogs will be naturally aggressive. But it is the breeder/owners are the real problem and should be held responsible.



OT… Do any of your Shar-Peis have that mean streak? When we raised them I had one female that was just nasty to strangers and other dogs. Her puppies showed the same type of aggression so we had to quite breeding her. We later found out that her father had been kicked out of many shows for aggression.
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Old October 28th, 2005, 10:06 AM   #11
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My vote: It's a bit draconian, but...

Seems the majority is voting to judge the dogs on a case by case basis. This would be the current status in most locales.

But there is a problem with that system. There is no tenable method of evaluating on a dog by dog basis, until after an incident. The judging only happens after an incident has occurred with a particular dog. At that point it is too late for the person that has been maimed, disfigured, killed, or whatever by the offending dog.
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My vote: It's a bit draconian, but...

Seems the majority is voting to judge the dogs on a case by case basis. This would be the current status in most locales.

But there is a problem with that system. There is no tenable method of evaluating on a dog by dog basis, until after an incident. The judging only happens after an incident has occurred with a particular dog. At that point it is too late for the person that has been maimed, disfigured, killed, or whatever by the offending dog.
Sounds logical to me. Well said.
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Old October 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM   #13
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My vote: It's a bit draconian, but...

Seems the majority is voting to judge the dogs on a case by case basis. This would be the current status in most locales.

But there is a problem with that system. There is no tenable method of evaluating on a dog by dog basis, until after an incident. The judging only happens after an incident has occurred with a particular dog. At that point it is too late for the person that has been maimed, disfigured, killed, or whatever by the offending dog.
as a victim of a dog attack when i was a kid (a dalmatian and a doberman, not a pit bull), i agree!
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Old October 28th, 2005, 10:38 AM   #14
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Pit Bulls are only viscious when trained to be. It's not the breed that's a problem, it's the owners.

I've had a pit bull (my mother has him now...when I moved to Cali I couldn't take him with me, and when I returned my mother wouldn't give him up because she loves him so much...this coming from a woman who claimed "That dog IS NOT coming into the house or anywhere near me" when she first heard I got a pitbull in college. Now when I talk to her she'll ask me, "don't you want to know how Cooper is?").

I'm against any Pit Bull regulation. So, I voted that the ban is over the top. I don't necissarily think it's a violation of civil liberties.
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My vote: It's a bit draconian, but...

Seems the majority is voting to judge the dogs on a case by case basis. This would be the current status in most locales.

But there is a problem with that system. There is no tenable method of evaluating on a dog by dog basis, until after an incident. The judging only happens after an incident has occurred with a particular dog. At that point it is too late for the person that has been maimed, disfigured, killed, or whatever by the offending dog.
But if you look at dog attacks/bites on a breed by breed basis, you'd be banning dobermans and german shepards, not pit bulls. So, why enact regulation against Pit Bulls and not other breeds that bite more?
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