June 21st, 2006, 08:30 AM
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POD 6/21/2006 - Should Flag Burning/Desecration be banned?
Do you support the Constitutional Amendment to ban Flag Descration?
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June 21st, 2006, 08:33 AM
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Banning flag burning is a terrible idea. The only time I would burn an American flag would be if they passed a law saying I can't burn an American flag. IMO being able to burn the American flag as a form of protest is the ultimate sign of freedom.
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June 21st, 2006, 08:40 AM
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Krycek, Alex Krycek
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People should be allowed to burn a flag, and other people should be allowed to beat the **** out of them for doing it. 
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June 21st, 2006, 11:37 AM
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Yes, it should be banned. If not the burning of the flag itself, how about setting fire to a substance in public without a permit, disorderly conduct, as well as most of the violent things that usually happen with flag burning.
I feel that flag burning is a violent way to protest. You should be allowed to assemble, but you should not be allowed to do whatever you want, when you do assemble.
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June 21st, 2006, 11:40 AM
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I think flag burning should be considered treason--
From wikipedia:
In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation or state.
I'm all for our freedoms, but some things should be considered sacred.
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June 21st, 2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
Yes, it should be banned. If not the burning of the flag itself, how about setting fire to a substance in public without a permit, disorderly conduct, as well as most of the violent things that usually happen with flag burning.
I feel that flag burning is a violent way to protest. You should be allowed to assemble, but you should not be allowed to do whatever you want, when you do assemble.
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So you are willing to amend the FIrst Amendment to stop one or two people a year?
What about other types of descrations (peeing on it, writing messages on it, etc)?
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June 21st, 2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SirStefan32
People should be allowed to burn a flag, and other people should be allowed to beat the **** out of them for doing it. |
Do you actually believe this or is this a joke? |
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June 21st, 2006, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dback Jon
So you are willing to amend the FIrst Amendment to stop one or two people a year?
What about other types of descrations (peeing on it, writing messages on it, etc)?
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I didn't say that it needed to be an amendment. It could be a federal offense though. |
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June 21st, 2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
I didn't say that it needed to be an amendment. It could be a federal offense though.
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But that was the question - whether it should be an Amendment.
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June 21st, 2006, 12:09 PM
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Krycek, Alex Krycek
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Originally Posted by krepitch
Do you actually believe this or is this a joke?
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No joke at all. You wanna burn it and piss on it- go for it, but be prepared for the consequences.
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June 21st, 2006, 12:10 PM
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If they pass an admendment on flag burning what's next?
An admendment that you can't critize the US government in public? An admendment that you can't make fun of the President?
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June 21st, 2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dback Jon
But that was the question - whether it should be an Amendment.
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I realize that was the question, but I should have articulated it better. I am undecided about an amendment, but firmly decided that it should be some sort of federal crime. |
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June 21st, 2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
I realize that was the question, but I should have articulated it better. I am undecided about an amendment, but firmly decided that it should be some sort of federal crime.
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For just flag burning, or any desecration?
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June 21st, 2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SirStefan32
No joke at all. You wanna burn it and piss on it- go for it, but be prepared for the consequences. |
What about writing on it? Making clothing out of it?
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June 21st, 2006, 12:16 PM
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Krycek, Alex Krycek
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Jon, do you believe it's appropriate to burn a flag or piss on it?
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