AZZenny

POD 11/14 - Religious values vs. Free Speech - the case of Islam - what to do about it?

Background:
It’s a mortal sin in the Islamic religion to physically depict the Prophet in any way, or criticize or question the Koran. Even seeing a picture of the Prophet would feel like a sin to many conservative Muslims. In at least some Islamic countries, insulting the prophet or Koran is punishable by death. (I’m sorry, these people are nuts.) Likewise, it is a sin for a good Muslim to let anyone get away with blasphemy or defiling Islam, Prophet, or Koran.

In 2004, award-winning Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was assassinated in Europe for an avant-garde short film which severely criticized the way fundamentalist Islam treats women. An unrepentent young fundamentalist Arab was convicted of the crime.

Last week, a Danish newspaper editor was subjected to threats of violence and protests, and 11 Arab Muslim nations sent formal protests to Denmark’s gov’t demanding the paper be ‘punished’ for publishing part of a children’s illustrated biography of Prophet Mohammed. The paper had its in-house cartoon illustrators do the work and published it in the paper, after they learned that private Danish cartoonists were too afraid for their lives to accept the job.

The Editor said it’s a democracy, and tolerance for disagreements and different viewpoints is part of life in a democracy. A European Imam said, “If this is democracy, we disagree with democracy. We will not tolerate this.” Some Danes supported the Muslims, saying the paper’s action was unnecessarily inflammatory in a time of already growing intolerance, and some Muslims supported the paper and the right to free speech without fear of reprisal.

Across Europe there’s growing concern that a climate of fearful self-censorship is developing, as art galleries, theaters, publishers, translators, authors, artists, shops, and others quietly cancel events or publications that someone might possibly see as ‘disrespectful’ to Islam.

__________________
"The power of the State looks real different when you're on the other side of the bayonet." Chris Hayes

PortlandCardFan

Other: Get over it!!

Another reason why the Crusades will continue long after we all die. Christian and Muslims (Zeolots!!) have very little tolerance for each other or for those who think they are both NUTS!!!!

:goesanddrawsapictureofmuhammed:

__________________
All Hell is breakin loose!!!!!

nothing worth having is freely given... it is earned through hard work and sacrifice.

I'm sorry Thomas!!!

CardLogic

I think it is valid to note that what you have described is basic Islamic Law. In other words this is not just something that is followed by groups that would be considered fundamental extremists. This is mainstream Islamic doctrine.

There is a book; I don't recall either the book nor the author (I didn't read the book, just saw advertisements for it); which had basically "predicted" the events that are occurring in France (riots) and the Netherlands (physical attacks upon members of various media for producing work critical of Islam).

There is no such thing as free speech in an Islamic ruled entities. Islam is a religion of conquest and control. It always has been; it is an intregal segment of Islamic doctrine. This is a basic fact that too many in our politically correct environment refuse to acknowledge.

__________________

"...fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
-Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark Twain)

CardLogic

Blasphemy against Christianity will get you admonished. Blasphemy against Islam will get you killed, or threatened with death at the least. Ask Salmon Rushdie!

I say that is a significant difference!

__________________

"...fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
-Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark Twain)

PortlandCardFan

I had to cover my bases. Christians have had those wonderful abortion clinic bombers! That is pretty nutso!!

__________________
All Hell is breakin loose!!!!!

nothing worth having is freely given... it is earned through hard work and sacrifice.

I'm sorry Thomas!!!

40yearfan

Let's just quit fooling around and nuke em.

__________________
Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternative.

DjaugheOld

I voted "Free speech is being threatened by zealots."

jenna2891

just so you know... the recent (i use that word lightly, i think it was in '98) bombing in alabama was not a christian. i believe he was an atheist.

KloD

Are you refering to Eric Rudolph?

__________________
Mulli is smarter than KloD.

CardLogic

Yes that is pretty nutso...

But violence towards abortionists is not a tenent of Christian doctrine. Whereas, Islamic doctrine does speak of the killing of "infidels".

__________________

"...fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
-Samuel Langhorne Clemens (Mark Twain)

AZZenny

__________________
"The power of the State looks real different when you're on the other side of the bayonet." Chris Hayes

AzCards21

Where's the option of kill them all?

I'm getting kinda tired of tip toeing around a foreign countries obviously soft and easily offended feelings.

How about the muslims nut up.