September 26th, 2005, 07:54 AM
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Too much good stuff
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Morning After Pill
How would you like to see the morning after pill RU-486 regulated in the US?
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September 26th, 2005, 08:47 AM
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Is this still being reviewed by the FDA?  |
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September 26th, 2005, 08:51 AM
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Banned
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I think it should be allowed by anyone at the pharmacy. Fire any pharmacist who refuses to fill it
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September 26th, 2005, 10:25 AM
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Next NY Gov
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Originally Posted by Ryanwb
I think it should be allowed by anyone at the pharmacy. Fire any pharmacist who refuses to fill it
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Even those 10 year old girls...
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September 26th, 2005, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RedStorm
Even those 10 year old girls... |
Are the other options better? |
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September 26th, 2005, 10:34 AM
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Next NY Gov
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Originally Posted by krepitch
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Yep. Parental consent. Someone that age can not go to a PG-13 movie but can take a pill to advert a pregnancey without the parents knowing?
Ok, here is where you say...but what about incest/rape and I would say there is always the courts. Go to the police and get a judge to allow it.
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September 26th, 2005, 10:37 AM
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There have been five deaths in the U.S. attributed to the drug, mifepristone; generally known as RU-486.
Abortion Drug Hurt Over 600 Women in Addition to Five Deaths
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Last edited by CardLogic; September 26th, 2005 at 10:40 AM.
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September 26th, 2005, 10:41 AM
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RIP George
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Originally Posted by Djaughe
Is this still being reviewed by the FDA? |
Only by the political side of the FDA. If the FDA were performing according to their mandate then this would already be approved.
The mandate is to ensure it is safe and effective, both have been demonstrated to FDA stanards. All that is left is the religious right activists in the Bush admin trying to find reasons to slow down or stop it's approval. |
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September 26th, 2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RedStorm
Someone that age can not go to a PG-13 movie but can take a pill to advert a pregnancey without the parents knowing?
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This fact tells us that as a society our views are awkwardly skewed! 
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September 26th, 2005, 10:44 AM
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RIP George
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Cardlogic pretty much proves my point
The link is from lifenews.com and from their website I give you ...
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ABOUT LIFENEWS.COM
LifeNews.com is an independent news agency specifically devoted to reporting news that affects the pro-life community.
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Not exacly a useful source of info.
This drug already meets FDA stanards for approval, so why has it not been approved ? Inquiring minds want to know. |
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September 26th, 2005, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nidan
The mandate is to ensure it is safe and effective, both have been demonstrated to FDA stanards.
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See my post above yours and then tell me your opinion of "safe".
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September 26th, 2005, 10:45 AM
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RIP George
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It meets all FDA standards for approval.
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September 26th, 2005, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nidan
Cardlogic pret much proves my point
The link is from lifenews.com and from their website I give you ...
Not exacly a useful source of info.
This drug already meets FDA stanards for approval, so why has it not been approved ? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Why is anything from a website that goes against your opinion not valid nidan? Of course LifeNews is biased in their agenda, that doesn't automatically make them dishonest in their reporting! You think Planned Parenthood is non-biased???
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September 26th, 2005, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nidan
It meets all FDA standards for approval.
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And what leads you to believe that the FDA is non-biased... because in this instance they support your position on the issue.
You do understand that people in the FDA are subjected to the same influences from lobbyist as are those in Congress. The pharmacutical lobby is one of the largest, and deepest pocketed of them all. 
Personally, I choose not to believe everything the FDA, or other components of our government tell us.
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September 26th, 2005, 10:53 AM
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RIP George
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Your link tells us nothing, it is pure propaganda.
It talks about deaths and hundreds of people hurt, without actually telling us anthing about that data.
It's 600 hurt are actually 600 adverse events, we know nothing about under what conditions those events occured, when or what they are. For all we know they could be utterly insignificant.
It appears to me that they have taken some information and sensationalized it to try and create FUD, which for the unitiated is Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It's a common corporate tactic, if you don't like something you start raising 'issues', which is exactly what there are doing.
If this was so dangerous why would it be available in Eurpoe, why would it meet FDA standards and why would the only people who oppose it be the pro life community ?
It's that last point that is telling, when the only folks that oppose somethig is one group with a proven agenda, in this case a religious pro life one, then any thing they same must be taken with a significant amount of scepticism
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