CaptTurbo

This was posted recently as the 'meaning' or definition of racism. It seems to leave out 'hate'

So my question is this. If you hate another race does that make you a racist?

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Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

Nothing he said implies that he thinks minorities are superior to whites. Pick your words better, people.

D-Dogg

Technically, no. That would be bigotry.

However in standard usage and conventional, conversational terms calling someone who hated another race "racist" would be acceptable. Normally, the "hate" stems from feelings of superiority anyway so there is a lot of grey area there.

But technically it is bigotry.

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Linderbee

You CAN hate another race AND be a racist. They are not mutually exclusive. IF you hate another race AND believe you are superior you are both a racist & a bigot.

I freakin' cut & pasted from m-w.com Take it up with them.

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Divide Et Impera

I agree with D-Dogg. The way the question is worded, we conventionally refer to that as 'racism', but by definition it is not. That is the only reason for my 'No' vote....

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CaptTurbo

What you cut and pasted I have in the first post. It does not contavin the word hate. How often do I have to say this b4 it sinks in?

Here it is again:

Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

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jenna2891

i've always viewed the distinction between racism and bigotry to be such:

racism is a preconceived notion about someone based solely on their race.

or

bigotry doesn't take into account anyone's personal attributes or how they got said attributes.

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D-Dogg

jenna may be smart, but she doesn't get her bff paperwork done, and that's all i need to know.

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jenna2891

whatever, broseph. don't be mad at me just cuz you're at the bottom of the pile.

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D-Dogg

BTW, that doesn't mean that I think the definition of racism is correct. I think it is a rather narrow definition and in reality, racism and bigotry are often blurred.

But from the definition standpoint, as it stands, that's the way it is defined.

There is a huge difference however in "racist" and "racially motivated." Bigoted comments are quite often racially motivated.

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Linderbee

I agree, that it is VERY difficult (if not impossible) to be a racist without being a bigot. It is possible, however, to be a bigot without being a racist. My pure point was (and still is) that Yul did not seem to project that he felt that he was superior based on his race. He very well may be a bigot, though.

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Linderbee

your examples 1 & 2 are stereotyping (imho), not racism or bigotry.

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Russ Smith

I would agree except in general to be racism something has to be negative.

So saying Yul is smart because he's Asian might not be racist if you consider smart a good thing. If you said yul is a bad driver because he's Asian, that would be racist.

That's where his comment got me, he was basically saying a minority deserved to win survivor and a white person didn't. That's lumping all white people into one large homogenous pot, which I personally found offensive.

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jenna2891

i tried to use positive examples, so as not to inflame, but it works the same way in the negative. examples:

or

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jenna2891

i would disagree with this assumption.

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Linderbee

I understand--I just still think that broad generalizations made about a group of people, either race, national origin, etc. (whether positive or negative) is stereotyping. It can be 'good' or 'bad'.

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