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View Poll Results: How should U.S. Immigration policy be reformed?
"Give us your tired, your poor... Throw open the borders.
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0%
McCain-Kennedy Plan - allow "guest-workers" to remain while filing for legal status
7
38.89%
Kyl-Cornyn Plan: Deport all illegal immigrants and let them apply for "guest-worker" status
4
22.22%
Lock down our borders. - Stricter enforcement, use U.S. military to enforce borders
7
38.89%
Create a Kill Zone - anyone within a specified area near border will be shot
Americans are nearly unanimous in thinking that the current status of the U.S. Immigration policies are not working. But we are widely divergent in how to reform the policies.
What do you think is a valid workable solution?
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Set a date that we accept people in. Say "On Jan 1 2007 we close our borders. If you think our system works and are willing to protect it, live it, take the benefits in it, come on in. If not stay where you are."
Then shut the borders, give national ID cards. Have a tax for american companies that build factories outside the US. Reduce imports of good we can produce by 90%.
Disolve the useless republican and democratic parties and install the Wig (american)and Labor parties in its place.
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I recken I'll be the extremist on this...lock down the border.
Lets put a moratorium on immigration (perhaps allow immediate family members to enter...but cap it at 250,000 a year) in place and after a couple years allow set number of immigrants to enter the country.
In the mean time enforce the rules - go after the business and kick out the illegals! While doing that focus on helping the current legal immigrants assimilate into the public.
Last edited by Djaughe; October 19th, 2005 at 09:50 AM.
In a perfect world, I would vote for the first option.
In the real world, though, I think the second option is the most reasonable.
Doesn't that make a joke of our border enforcement?? Doesn't that option encourage illegal entry?
There have been at least two Amnesty grants that I recall, that is where anyone who was illegally within the U.S. could apply for "amnesty" and legal status. Following the McCain-Kennedy plan would be the third time. It makes a mockery of immigration enforcement; if you enter the U.S. illegally, and are lucky enough to not get caught, sooner or later you will be allowed to apply for legal status.
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I say LOCKDOWN!
Who knows how many Al-Quida sympathizers have snuck in while we're out conquering Iraq.
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Doesn't that make a joke of our border enforcement?? Doesn't that option encourage illegal entry?
There have been at least two Amnesty grants that I recall, that is where anyone who was illegally within the U.S. could apply for "amnesty" and legal status. Following the McCain-Kennedy plan would be the third time. It makes a mockery of immigration enforcement; if you enter the U.S. illegally, and are lucky enough to not get caught, sooner or later you will be allowed to apply for legal status.
I understand what you are saying. There are drawbacks to the approach, but I think this makes the most sense. Of course, the best idea would be to go back in time and make border security a priority.
I understand what you are saying. There are drawbacks to the approach, but I think this makes the most sense. Of course, the best idea would be to go back in time and make border security a priority.
Personally I would be tickled pink if our government just enforces the current laws...
Personally I would be tickled pink if our government just enforces the current laws...
Ideally I agree... I think they should leave the borders as is and actually start enforcing our employment laws...
I would love for them to make them a little more strict and even aim them at the people that run the companies as well as the owners... $10,000 non-negotiable immediate fine for the business owner and manditory jail time for anyone involved in the knowledge of, or hiring of, unlawfully employed illegal aliens...
Enforce that 6 times nationwide, report it heavily and illegal immigration will cease near immediately...
Currently - Legally you can not hire an undocumented worker to do labor for your business but you can write off those exact expenses quarterly or at the end of the year... What a joke...
Last edited by CardFan67; October 19th, 2005 at 11:09 AM.
Personally I would be tickled pink if our government just enforces the current laws...
Good point.
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Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff admitted that the practice of ‘‘catch and release’’ for non-Mexicans caught at the border was a serious problem. Mexicans who enter illegally and are caught are promptly returned, but last year the Border Patrol caught 160,000 non-Mexicans and only 30,000 were removed. The rest were released and many disappeared.
This is blatantly absurd!!!
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I believe in liberal immigration and "guest worker" policies and a lockdown on the border.
The current arrangement of basically open borders and reletively tough immigration policies is just plain stupid.
Interesting take, Chaz!
To make it easier legally and tougher illegally certainly would help to reduce the criminal status of many immigrants and bring them "out of the shadows" to be more easily assimilated. Also reducing the crime syndicate organizations which deal in human trafficking.
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Wow...interesting they don't say how many were from the middle east...
Just a assumption on my part... based on the numbers given, I believe that Chertoff may actually have meant non-Latin American, instead of non-Mexican.
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