Originally Posted by DWKB
Yes, you are suppose to be everything. An expert in everything because personal responsibility dictates such. You're supposed to know if your child's food is poisoned, or if your car has faulty equipment or if your banks are lying SOBs looking to screw you out of your money.
There is no out-sourcing to field experts or oversight agencies because they're just looking to control you anyways and only a fascist or communist wants something like that.
Originally Posted by DutchmanAZ
If your comfortable with that - that's fine. I'm of the other opinion where I don't necessarily trust the pundits (nor our elected officials) to provide us with semi-unbiased facts and prefer to verify facts myself.
IMHO, we citizens have a responsibility not to take everything at face value, particularly something so monumental as UHC. Blind trust in our elected officials and/or simple laziness (this is not directed at you or anyone in particular) is how we've arrived to our current situation.
Hell - how can we even rationally debate the pros and cons of UHC without even reading the bill? We're merely spouting talking points from both sides of which both views are certain to be biased or perhaps even false. Again - IMHO.
Society has responsibilities too.
I understand the thinking behind this, but I fail to see why I should then be a part of said society if I have to play politician, butcher, baker, police, teacher, garbage man, etc., etc.
Why pay taxes, why even bother with money, or work ? Just plant a garden, find a water source and stock up fire wood for winter.
There has to be some reliance on society and the system that is around you, IMO. Even Newton said, "If I have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
I try not to take everything at "face value" but where does one stop in regards to how far to dig into every aspect of ones life.
Thus the 1,000+ document in question, written in lawyer speak, could take 2 months (at the least) to decipher, break down, double check, follow up on, and understand completely.
To ask every single citizen to find 2 months of private time to sit down and do all that seems a little crazy. Thus why not have an expert read said document and explain it to everyone.
Of course, you can question the expert, but then if you start doing that, why not question the document itself, or the original writer of the document, or the government in which he resides, or the country that holds the government, etc., etc.
There is a fine balance, IMO. So, the complete and utter rejection of society and working within it is something I can't see happening for every citizen.
I guess, IMO, it is relative how much of a slave you are to said machine. For me it is something to strive for, but I don't think I would ever reach that level. There is always going to be something in my life, whom I trust, that when I know, that I don't know enough about something I will talk to them for advice. That simple action is the trade of ideas, and what not, and is thus relying on someone else, and thus relying on society, and thus being slave to the machine.
- I am not going to question my father when it comes to Mathematics because of his 40 year in the subject, and the trust gained through our natural bond, and for that service I help him keep his computer up and running. I would find it a little crazy to think I should know better about a subject that he has worked on longer than I have been alive.
...... it is a conudrum tho. Since I do enjoy being responsible for everything that I can have the control over (thus responsibility). I don't like having people, DO, things for me. So, if I screw up I know it was my dumb ass that did the screwing.