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View Poll Results: Did McCaon make a good choice for his VP?
Yes! 13 37.14%
No! 16 45.71%
Don't Know? 6 17.14%
Don't Care! 0 0%
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 10:59 AM   #1
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 11:04 AM   #2
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Great choice for Obama!!

Terrible choice for him!
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 11:08 AM   #3
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Could have been better, but I don't think it was all bad.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 10:09 PM   #4
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Yes. Judging by how bent out of shape the left is about it, hell yes.

Still wouldn't vote for him in a billion years. Obama's the far better choice. And Ron Paul is my guy.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 10:25 PM   #5
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Just for kicks, I watched the post-conference analysis on MSNBC tonight. I despise Chris Matthews - need to make that clear right up front. However, he absolutely nailed it tonight.
In short, he captured the moment and this election as follows:

That not too long ago, Hilary was the destined one and McCain was, as has always been the case, tossed aside by his own party. Yet, here we are, Obama doing what nobody on the left or the right thought possible, and McCain - yes, John freakin McCain - is this close to being the next President! This is the mother of all anti-establishment elections!
And to further illustrate the point, McCain chooses some women Governor who nobody has ever heard of, as his running mate...
In short, while Obama has been successful within his party by playing the agent of change, the exact same can be said of McCain. But what's most astonishing is that McCain is the Republican nominee. The Repubs are now attempting to say that they are the party that can create the sort of change Americans seem to so strongly desire. And in McCain and Palin, they have a ticket that screams non-conformity...
Oh, the pundits here and elsewhere are working overtime to show that both McCain and Palin are really not about change at all... How many times do we need to hear how McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time... However, the reality is that the McCain-Palin ticket, the presentation of McCain tonight by Thompson and the words/presence of Leiberman all did what the right needed it to. It furthered the narrative that indeed, this is the quintessential CHANGE election...
As I said, I despise Matthews but the man could not have been more accurate in his summary this evening...
It's all very, very fascinating to say the least, and certainly shines a light on a VP candidate that has never been so bright... Never has a VP speech been so HUGE. Palin can put aside a great of angst and speculation, or she can add fuel to it all and in all likelihood, sink the McCain ship before it even left the docks...

Wow....
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 08:42 AM   #6
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I think she's loony with her extreme "no abortion, no matter what" stance, and i think ANYBODY that thinks hunting from a helicopter is anything but reprehensible is a LAME human being.
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 11:09 PM   #7
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Andy,

She's not at all loony, it's much worse than that, she's the United States of America's downfall.

Let's be clear here, she knocked the ball out of the park, the pubs are in love and will defend her to the death now, she's untouchable unless someone finds an actual body in her freezer.

I liked a lot of her speech, that's what's dangerous about her, hell I'd vote for her even with her religious views but then she started in on the war and kept on going with it.

How can you claim all the truth to power bs and yet claim this war was anything other than total manipulation?

She's willing to say anything because she believes she's right and everyone else is wrong and she's likeable.

This is a tragedy, it's the final American Idol knife twist to our republic where reason is totally drowned out by emotion where truth is buried under lies and where personality rules not the rule of law.

Obama stands for everything I despise in terms of making government bigger but he's right about the war, she stands for everything I stand for except she's wrong about the war.

I've never been this disheartend in my life.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 07:03 AM   #8
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This is a tragedy, it's the final American Idol knife twist to our republic where reason is totally drowned out by emotion where truth is buried under lies and where personality rules not the rule of law.
Although I'm nowhere near as fatalistic, That's a pretty good description of my opinion about Obama.

Some people are answering whether they think Palin would be a good vice president, which isn't the question (at least I don't think that's what KloD intended). McCain obviously made a "good" choice, as she seems more likely than Romney or Pawlenty or Ridge as VP to help McCain get elected.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 08:59 AM   #9
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Andy,

She's not at all loony, it's much worse than that, she's the United States of America's downfall.

Let's be clear here, she knocked the ball out of the park, the pubs are in love and will defend her to the death now, she's untouchable unless someone finds an actual body in her freezer.

I liked a lot of her speech, that's what's dangerous about her, hell I'd vote for her even with her religious views but then she started in on the war and kept on going with it.

How can you claim all the truth to power bs and yet claim this war was anything other than total manipulation?

She's willing to say anything because she believes she's right and everyone else is wrong and she's likeable.

This is a tragedy, it's the final American Idol knife twist to our republic where reason is totally drowned out by emotion where truth is buried under lies and where personality rules not the rule of law.

Obama stands for everything I despise in terms of making government bigger but he's right about the war, she stands for everything I stand for except she's wrong about the war.

I've never been this disheartend in my life.
I could have missed it, but have you actually seen or heard a detailed summary from Palin regarding her position on the war and the basis for being there?
She certainly supports our troops bigtime - as does ObamaBiden... However - she's now a VEEP nominee who enters the fray at a time when of all things, we are fighting a battle in Iraq. What is she supposed to say - "We need to get out now, regardless of the conditions on the ground"? ObamaBiden doesn't even say that...

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Old September 4th, 2008, 11:20 AM   #10
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IMHO, the jury is still out on what she brings to the ticket. She appears to have many skeletons in her closet which may doom the pick. But I'll bet she will wiggle out of the hot water based on her charm and good ole' republican strong arm tactics.

Lord help us if McCain takes a dirt nap anytime soon.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 11:40 AM   #11
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She appears to have many skeletons in her closet which may doom the pick. But I'll bet she will wiggle out of the hot water based on her charm and good ole' republican strong arm tactics.

Lord help us if McCain takes a dirt nap anytime soon.
After last nights speech and all the media scrutiny...I think she is actually going to be a plus to the McCain ticket. Nothing to do with experience or ability to actually do the job, though.

She is superficially appealing and will probably elicit a lot support based on her being subjected too and the way she handles the media scrutiny. Some people are going to sympathize with her because of the attacks and also see her as a strong character based on how she stands up to the attacks. The skeletons in her closet may help out the ticket based on how overboard the media goes and how she handles the punches.

The Democrats really need to turn the VP debates into issues oriented debates and expose her inexperience and bring out her views that are considerably right of center without slinging mud.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #12
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Looks good right now, but in the end will haunt him and end him.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 09:15 PM   #13
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Looks good right now, but in the end will haunt him and end him.
Ha... I thought his skin cancer and/or the PTSD from his POW days would end him??

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