Could you execute someone on death row? - Page 2

KloD · October 6th, 2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Djaughe

Interesting...then a Oregon physician that ends a terminally ills life is also a murderer?

Physicians DO NOT end a persons life, they do it themselves. The Physician prescribes the drugs to do it, but the patient is the one who serves themselves.

KloD · October 6th, 2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Derm

Actually I'm wobbly on the prisoner situation because I am wobbly on the ethics of the death penalty (believe it or not). I have a very clear conscience on the combat/self-defense/law enforcement situations.

I don't think anyone here would argue killing another in self defense.

Do you view war as self defense?

KloD · October 6th, 2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna2891

but wouldn't the person who sent the robot to do it be the same as a state sanctioned murderer?

Yes they would.

justAndy · October 6th, 2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Djaughe

Interesting...then a Oregon physician that ends a terminally ills life is also a murderer?

no- the terminally ill person is assumed to have REQUESTED death.
Yes - some death row inmates admit their guilt and accept their fate, some just get tired of the fight , but some deny their guilt, and some innocents have been executed.

Djaughe · October 6th, 2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KloD

Physicians DO NOT end a persons life, they do it themselves. The Physician prescribes the drugs to do it, but the patient is the one who serves themselves.

Ahh...so its kinda like k-mart selling guns and ammo...its the user that then serves themselves.

justAndy · October 6th, 2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KloD

I don't think anyone here would argue killing another in self defense.

Do you view war as self defense?

war against the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor, Hitler rampaging all over Europe and N Africa, The Taliban and ALQuaida - yes.

Invading secular Iraq - who was no threat to us?? not sure at all.

Derm · October 6th, 2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KloD

I don't think anyone here would argue killing another in self defense.

Do you view war as self defense?

I consider myself as a peaceful person but I am not a pacifist. I do not see all wars as a self-defense issue and I don't limit the use of force to the point of deadly force as necessarily a self-defense issue.

KloD · October 6th, 2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Djaughe

Ahh...so its kinda like k-mart selling guns and ammo...its the user that then serves themselves.

I believe the requirments to be appoved for assisted suicide to be far more astringent than buying guns and ammo at K-mart.

You know I am against all guns, but I never have singled out any one source. I've not cheered for the lawsuits either.

KloD · October 6th, 2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Derm

I consider myself as a peaceful person but I am not a pacifist. I do not see all wars as a self-defense issue and I don't limit the use of force to the point of deadly force as necessarily a self-defense issue.

Really? All wars? So if one country invades another, they are acting in self defense?

I'm just trying to understand how you justify one causing the death of another as ok in some circumstances.

Djaughe · October 6th, 2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KloD

...You know I am against all guns, but I never have singled out any one source. I've not cheered for the lawsuits either.

Then you are in the minorty of the left.

Yuma · October 6th, 2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Djaughe

Interesting...then a Oregon physician that ends a terminally ills life is also a murderer?

If you ever had to watch a loved one die a painful horrible death, you wouldn't compare a doctor compasionatly ending someone's suffering to a murderer's excecution. Not the same whatsoever. I hope you never have to compare the two in your own life.

Djaughe · October 6th, 2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuma

If you ever had to watch a loved one die a painful horrible death, you wouldn't compare a doctor compasionatly ending someone's suffering to a murderer's excecution. Not the same whatsoever. I hope you never have to compare the two in your own life.

I hope so too.