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View Poll Results: Do you support Capital Punishment?
Not to get deep into it again, but I have studied the results of CP for a few years and would like to know what you preceive as a strong argument for the use of CP?
Well, I believe that there are human beings on this earth who are truly evil. Rehabilitation isn't an option, because either A) They cannot be rehabilitated or B) Even if they are, by the time their murder sentence was over they will be 85 years old.
I don't like life sentences. There are starving, homeless children out there with crack addicts for parents and I would rather have my tax money going toward giving them food and shelter than giving some rapist/pedophile/murderer food and shelter.
To me it is very simple. If you rape and murder one of my family members I will execute you myself. Why would I deny somebody else that very same thing if it was their family member?
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Well, I believe that there are human beings on this earth who are truly evil. Rehabilitation isn't an option, because either A) They cannot be rehabilitated or B) Even if they are, by the time their murder sentence was over they will be 85 years old.
I don't like life sentences. There are starving, homeless children out there with crack addicts for parents and I would rather have my tax money going toward giving them food and shelter than giving some rapist/pedophile/murderer food and shelter.
To me it is very simple. If you rape and murder one of my family members I will execute you myself. Why would I deny somebody else that very same thing if it was their family member?
I understand what your saying. It's a catch 22, sentencing a person to death is more expensive (by far) than housing them for life. If we make it cheaper, cutting out appeals and such..we are left with more innocents killed.
It doesn't work as a deterant, states with CP have higher capital crime rates than those without.
The first thing that popped into my head about taking the law into your own hands was the story in the film Mystic River. I understand how people feel a need for revenge, I know I would.
until the process is no longer race and wealth based it is the highest form of injustice - has any crooked cop or prosecuter ever been seriously punished for railroading an innocent suspect?
Another example of the agents of the Holy State being untouchable.
As the the one condemned hillbilly put it - "those that ain't got the capital git the punishment".
Remember - this is the same Holy State that spends young Americans in attempted empire building without a second thought
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until the process is no longer race and wealth based it is the highest form of injustice - has any crooked cop or prosecuter ever been seriously punished for railroading an innocent suspect?
Another example of the agents of the Holy State being untouchable.
As the the one condemned hillbilly put it - "those that ain't got the capital git the punishment".
Remember - this is the same Holy State that spends young Americans in attempted empire building without a second thought
where is the proof that the capitol punishment system is flawed?
How many innocent people have been put to death in the U.S. that were then later proven innocent?
To date, the answer to that question is NONE... at least none that anyone has eer proven... Sure there are cases where someone has been wrongfully accused and then not put to death but there are no cases of finding innocence after the fact, and you know there are plenty of people and grops trying to find such an occurance...
where is the proof that the capitol punishment system is flawed?
How many innocent people have been put to death in the U.S. that were then later proven innocent?
To date, the answer to that question is NONE... at least none that anyone has eer proven... Sure there are cases where someone has been wrongfully accused and then not put to death but there are no cases of finding innocence after the fact, and you know there are plenty of people and grops trying to find such an occurance...
If I cite one, will you change your mind about capital punishment?
Still doesn't change my opinion, I was just trying to save you the trouble of searching in response to CardFan67.
I wouldn't call that absolute proof--merely the sole witness retracting his story after the fact, for whatever reason--which is pretty damn good proof, but not doesn't 100% prove the executed dude was innocent.
I wouldn't call that absolute proof--merely the sole witness retracting his story after the fact, for whatever reason--which is pretty damn good proof, but not doesn't 100% prove the executed dude was innocent.
FWIW- I was sold on it. After reading that I have a strong reason to believe an innocent man was executed. I see your point though, it's not absolute proof.
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First off you do not know my opinion, so would you like to change it to a pro stance from an undecieded stance?
secondly, out of 996 executions performed over the last 40 years I find it odd that there is only one issue of questioned innocence... Honestly I really do not have an opinion on whether or not it should be done or not, I am on the fence between what I believe is a case of humans trying to be ultimatly supreme and the fact that it is a true deterrent... And yes it is a deterrent, perhaps not to future criminals but the person executed will not perform the same crime again...
First off you do not know my opinion, so would you like to change it to a pro stance from an undecieded stance?
secondly, out of 996 executions performed over the last 40 years I find it odd that there is only one issue of questioned innocence... Honestly I really do not have an opinion on whether or not it should be done or not, I am on the fence between what I believe is a case of humans trying to be ultimatly supreme and the fact that it is a true deterrent... And yes it is a deterrent, perhaps not to future criminals but the person executed will not perform the same crime again...
I assumed you were in favor of it based on your post. My bad.
And I did a quick search and am surprised I didn't find a few cases pop up--although I did see that more than 100 on death row have been exonerated since the early 70's. I'd argue that the reason none of the executed are exonerated is because there's no longer any reason to appeal their sentences--but even if all of the 996 executed were guilty, the fear that one innocent person might be executed one day is enough for me to oppose it.
I assumed you were in favor of it based on your post. My bad.
And I did a quick search and am surprised I didn't find a few cases pop up--although I did see that more than 100 on death row have been exonerated since the early 70's. I'd argue that the reason none of the executed are exonerated is because there's no longer any reason to appeal their sentences--but even if all of the 996 executed were guilty, the fear that one innocent person might be executed one day is enough for me to oppose it.
Everytime I research it, I am surprised as well... The only reason I really made that statement was because it was reported on the news last night as it relates to the upcoming execution of Tookie Williams here in California... and around the water cooler when we talk about this topic at work there are a few pro DP hardcores who always seem to have some good insight and I go to my comp and try to find something to prove them wrong... when I bring up the high number of exonerations, they just tell me that it is proof that the system works, weeding out those that are possibly innocent...
One thing that really confuses me is that most people that are pro life and site the reasons as the sanctity of life are almost always those that are pro DP...
Still not real sure on my feelings regarding the DP, I am just glad there is a system in place that makes others decide for me...
One thing that really confuses me is that most people that are pro life and site the reasons as the sanctity of life are almost always those that are pro DP...
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One is the killing of innocent blood and the other is a punishment for an act that was committed.
Just like I’ll bet you that most people against abortions spank their children where as most pro choice think that spanking is bordering on child abuse.
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