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View Poll Results: Can you be a feminist and be against abortion?
and i love how abortion supporters word thing: "pro-choice" instead of pro-abortion.
being pro choice, at least to me, does not mean you "support" abortions per se. it's not like pro-choice people are having parties at abortion clinics jumping up and down cuz they get to terminate a fetus.
anyway, as for the poll question, i voted that yes you can be a feminist and be against abortion.
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that's good. but pro-abortion people often say that they are "fighting a war on choice" or other such nonsense. that rhetoric strikes me as ridiculous.
No rhetoric. It is about choice. The choice of the individual woman.
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Originally Posted by Rivercard
I understand that. But how does that relate to supporting feminism which is today's poll?
if you look at it as always murder, than feminism doesn't even enter into it. because it is always murder, it is always a crime. no one, man or woman, has a "right" to a crime.
if you look at it as always murder, than feminism doesn't even enter into it. because it is always murder, it is always a crime. no one, man or woman, has a "right" to a crime.
Then I take it your earlier quote "people who say that feminism and abortion have to go hand in hand clearly do not understand the position held by pro-life people" is a bunch of baloney. It sounds like you are being supportive of feminism but in reality you are not saying anything at all.
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Then I take it your earlier quote "people who say that feminism and abortion have to go hand in hand clearly do not understand the position held by pro-life people" is a bunch of baloney. It sounds like you are being supportive of feminism but in reality you are not saying anything at all.
no, not baloney. listen very carefully: i think abortion is always murder. as such, it is not a woman's issue, but a societal one.
I really wanted to vote that way too 32 but couldn't figure out how making aborton illegal could possibly be in step with feminism.
that's a good point actually.
But when I read an actual core definition of feminism, I realized it's not so much about 'women have this but dont have that vs men, but about actualy equality.'
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Feminism is theory that men and women should be equal politically, economically and socially.
This is the core of all feminism theories. Sometimes this definition is also referred to as "core feminism" or "core feminist theory." Notice that this theory does not subscribe to differences between men and women or similarities between men and women, nor does it refer to excluding men or only furthering women's causes. Most other branches of feminism do.
But then again other branches of feminism are pretty much anti-guy and it wouldnt be almost contradictory to be a feminist and against abortion.
I don't know. This was a tough question, for me at least. Good job whoever posted it.
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i believe that life begins at conception. as such, ending that life through abortion is murder. it is not really a difficult thing to get, although i appreciate the fact that you find my mind fascinating.
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wow, TWO mom's whose son's died oppose this war!!! that must mean all mom's feel that way!!!
....doesn't this thought conflict with your previously stated nonchalance about mothers who protest the war after their progeny have died in battle.?
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