Can you be a feminist and be against abortion? - Page 10

Rivercard · August 23rd, 2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofCards

But the sperm is alive and it comes from a human.

So does that mean vegans cannot ... you know... consume a certain animal product?

Djaughe · August 23rd, 2005, 01:48 PM

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....Sort of like Lorena Bobbitt should have been prosecuted under a particular statute because John Wayne could never again have a child.

Some feminists groups considered that improving the gene pool...

Djaughe · August 23rd, 2005, 01:50 PM

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Okay Okay Okay...lets be careful not to cross the pg-13 rating here!

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jenna2891 · August 23rd, 2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofCards

But the sperm is alive and it comes from a human. It is a proven fact that the brains of a baby come directly from the male.

Where does it stop and why should you decide?

Do you see what I am getting at all?

yes, i get what you're saying, but so what? it is alive (albeit in the way a tree is alive) and it comes from a human. much like cancer. and yes, it is part of the conception process. but human life does not begin because you had a wet dream. a baby can never come because of that.

KingofCards · August 23rd, 2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivercard

So does that mean vegans cannot ... you know... consume a certain animal product?

Yes and I am pro-choice because I believe a slippery-slope exists where pro-life people will attempt to outlaw masterbating.

Rivercard · August 23rd, 2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna2891

it comes from a human. much like cancer.

Paging Dr. Freud

jenna2891 · August 23rd, 2005, 01:52 PM

also, forgive me on that last post. i'm not usually so crass.

KingofCards · August 23rd, 2005, 01:53 PM

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yes, i get what you're saying, but so what? it is alive (albeit in the way a tree is alive) and it comes from a human. much like cancer. and yes, it is part of the conception process. but human life does not begin because you had a wet dream. a baby can never come because of that.

So agree that the man provides the brains to the baby?

Dback Jon · August 23rd, 2005, 01:54 PM

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So agree that the man provides the brains to the baby?

Or lack thereof?

jenna2891 · August 23rd, 2005, 01:54 PM

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So agree that the man provides the brains to the baby?

if you want to have your gender take resposibility for all of the idiots in the world, be my guest.

KingofCards · August 23rd, 2005, 01:55 PM

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also, forgive me on that last post. i'm not usually so crass.

I've been pushing the envelope.

We are know actually debating the legality of masterbation right? The murder of helpless life is the issue here, is it not?

Kolo · August 23rd, 2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofCards

Yes and I am pro-choice because I believe a slippery-slope exists where pro-life people will attempt to outlaw masterbating.

Not pro-lifers necessarily, but Orthodox Jews. From Genesis 38:

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9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.

KingofCards · August 23rd, 2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna2891

if you want to have your gender take resposibility for all of the idiots in the world, be my guest.

KingofCards · August 23rd, 2005, 01:57 PM

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Not pro-lifers necessarily, but Orthodox Jews. From Genesis 38:

See! I knew it.

Pro-choice baby!

jenna2891 · August 23rd, 2005, 01:57 PM

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I've been pushing the envelope.

We are know actually debating the legality of masterbation right? The murder of helpless life is the issue here, is it not?

no, because i think you're the only one who believes that human life begins with ejaculation.