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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:01 AM   #1
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Can Democracy Stop Terrorism?


The Bush administration contends that the push for democracy in the Muslim world will improve U.S. security.

Is this a fallacy?
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:05 AM   #2
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I vote 'Yes' democracy can stop terrorism...but I also want to add...eradicating poverty and promoting feminism would also go a long way.

Also I do believe it can be a falacy if 'we' try to establish a government that is not by the people.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:10 AM   #3
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I voted No. In no way with our press and having opposing parties that are willing to hurt the country in order to hurt the other party can we do the damage and the carnage neccessary to win a war on terror.

The days of world war 2 and doing what needs to be done are over.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:41 AM   #4
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I voted No. In no way with our press and having opposing parties that are willing to hurt the country in order to hurt the other party can we do the damage and the carnage neccessary to win a war on terror.

The days of world war 2 and doing what needs to be done are over.
Yer assuming us versus terrorism.

I read the question as more ideology - can establishing democracy in a foreign country stop terrorism? I believe democracy can empower the people to control their own country and help guide their future.

But I do see yer point...if we had today's politicians and the media back in the american revoluton - we'd still be a colony.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 07:29 AM   #5
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are we talking stopping it completely, or stopping its prevalence?
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Old September 13th, 2005, 07:59 AM   #6
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Yes. Democracy will help to conquer terrorism. Democracy as in freedom of speech, freedom to watch TV or use the internet for your information so that you can see a whole world's opinion rather than a narrow local one, the chance to see how other cultures operate, and the opportunity to see all this world has to offer besides just a very strict religious belief.

When these people start to realize there is a better way of life, they will never be content to go back to the old ways, especially the young people.

That's why China is starting to have problems now. The people are becoming more informed, are started to get a little money and want to be able to live as people in the free world live. For China, the booming economy is a two edged sword for the people in power. It could turn around to stab them.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 09:11 AM   #7
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I voted No. In no way with our press
Thank god we don't have a "SWD approved" press.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 09:13 AM   #8
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I voted no. There will always be a Tomithy McVeigh type lurking in society
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Old September 13th, 2005, 10:27 AM   #9
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are we talking stopping it completely, or stopping its prevalence?
Exactly what my question is. I do believe democracy along with freedom and liberty will help to reduce the prevalence of terrorism but unfortuantely it will never be eliminated.



Therefore, NO.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 10:39 AM   #10
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Yes, but good intelligence and lots of ammunition always helps.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 10:42 AM   #11
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Exactly what my question is. I do believe democracy along with freedom and liberty will help to reduce the prevalence of terrorism but unfortuantely it will never be eliminated.

Therefore, NO.
Its kind of a tricky poll...because the question is different in the first post:

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The Bush administration contends that the push for democracy in the Muslim world will improve U.S. security.

Is this a fallacy?
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Old September 13th, 2005, 11:25 AM   #12
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Its kind of a tricky poll...because the question is different in the first post:
Yeah, sorry. I realize now that what I was thinking may not have been clear in the question I posed.

My intention was the question you qoute, and the poll question was supposed to reflect that. I do see where the poll question generalized it.

So please read the first post and have that in mind when answering the question.
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Yeah, sorry. I realize now that what I was thinking may not have been clear in the question I posed.

My intention was the question you qoute, and the poll question was supposed to reflect that. I do see where the poll question generalized it.

So please read the first post and have that in mind when answering the question.
just to double check, in your first post you say "is this a fallacy?" our answer to the poll question should not reflect the answer to that question, but rather to the poll question posted, but with the first sentence in mind. correct?
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just to double check, in your first post you say "is this a fallacy?" our answer to the poll question should not reflect the answer to that question, but rather to the poll question posted, but with the first sentence in mind. correct?
Yes, sorry about the confusion (it was 6am and I am hosting 300 people at a convention this week), my mind is all over the place.

My poll question was a general question, but the idea was to have the question I posed in the first post in mind because that is what seems to be most relevent to what is going on today.

I hope this makes better sense. Either way the responses still touch base with my original thoughts. I just hoped to get raise a discussion on the topic and where it goes is fine with me.
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Old September 13th, 2005, 01:57 PM   #15
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Can Democracy Stop Terrorism?


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The Bush administration contends that the push for democracy in the Muslim world will improve U.S. security.

Is this a fallacy?



No.


Yeah, sorry. I realize now that what I was thinking may not have been clear in the question I posed.

Serious understatement.






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