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View Poll Results: What do you believe that mankind's time on this planet is limited?
Unlimited, we are the primary form of life and will adapt the planet to our needs. 5 13.51%
Due to excesses (pollution, consumption) the planet will cease to be inhabitable. 7 18.92%
Catastrophic occurrance (nuclear, epidemic) will result in "Mad Max" scenario. 13 35.14%
Mankind's time on earth is limited, Biblical prophecy will be fullfilled. 12 32.43%
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Old October 24th, 2005, 01:59 PM   #16
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So are you saying the ME is not humaine?


If you are-

If you aren't- I am
I am saying that fanaticism is the one thing that may keep us from reaching our potential since a fanatic will never adapt to a new situation. They will cling to an ideal or notion no matter how outdated.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 02:07 PM   #17
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I am saying that fanaticism is the one thing that may keep us from reaching our potential since a fanatic will never adapt to a new situation. They will cling to an ideal or notion no matter how outdated.
The problem is the difference of our definition of humane and the ME definition.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 02:11 PM   #18
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The problem is the difference of our definition of humane and the ME definition.
Definitely.

I would hate to lower ourselves to their level, but there are times (right around when those asswipes cut the head off a civilian) that I would like to see us give it right back to them. Maybe we should cut off Bin Laden's nuts on CNN when we finally catch him.

We can have a muslim american say "Allah told me that this cowardly bastard has no courage to fight warriors, only women and children. As such, Allah decrees his balls are forfeit"
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Old October 24th, 2005, 04:04 PM   #19
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I am saying that fanaticism is the one thing that may keep us from reaching our potential since a fanatic will never adapt to a new situation. They will cling to an ideal or notion no matter how outdated.
How about the anti-science religious movement in our country?
Are they helping our situation?
I mean - "Why try to find ways to save nature and ourselves - the prophesies say that humanity will go through Armageddon - there's nothing we can do"
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Old October 24th, 2005, 04:34 PM   #20
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Biblical prophecy?
Prophecy is a complicated subject, but ignorance of it is not an excuse for rudness!

I am not a Bible scholar. However, it is my understanding that there have been hundreds of propecies in the Bible which have been fulfilled. Yet there are none, NOT ONE, which has been proven wrong!
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Old October 24th, 2005, 04:41 PM   #21
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How about the anti-science religious movement in our country?
Are they helping our situation?
I mean - "Why try to find ways to save nature and ourselves - the prophesies say that humanity will go through Armageddon - there's nothing we can do"
Stewardship is a Biblical principle. The concept of stewardship means that we are responsible for taking care of that which has been given and entrusted to us, i.e. - the earth.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:02 PM   #22
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Stewardship is a Biblical principle. The concept of stewardship means that we are responsible for taking care of that which has been given and entrusted to us, i.e. - the earth.
Then it's odd that politically, the right seems to be the most willing to sell out the environment.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:03 PM   #23
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Prophecy is a complicated subject, but ignorance of it is not an excuse for rudness!

I am not a Bible scholar. However, it is my understanding that there have been hundreds of propecies in the Bible which have been fulfilled. Yet there are none, NOT ONE, which has been proven wrong!
What has been fulfilled? What has not been proven wrong?
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:06 PM   #24
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My next door neighbor sold food storage and water containers to all the bible thumpers in Mesa who were sure they world was ending on Jan 1st 2000. He made out like a bandit and bought a brand new RV with cash.

The bible might make you feel all warm and cozy but it is irrational and misleading
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:31 PM   #25
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What has been fulfilled? What has not been proven wrong?
The way they are worded, they can be interprated over the years to point to the bible being correct.

Its kind of like going to a psychic or reading Nostradamus...

There have been many times in histroy when people have claimed the prophecies are being fullfilled and the end is nigh. But, surprise, surpise, we are still here.

How many times have people though Sadaam was the anti-chirst?
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I would have combined options 2 and 3 - I think we will make this place so marginally habitable - probably through loss of potable water, desertification, and overpopulation - that we will become incapable of managing natural or manmade catastrophes.

I like to think no one is crazy enough to use Nukes or bioterrorism, but Iran or Syria with nukes scares the bejeezus out of me.

As to the Mars wild-card - since the majority of US Citizenry doesn't believe in the theory of evolution, and since increasingly big business owns the science and scientists, I'm not feeling especially optimistic about scientific leaps forward anytime in the immediate future.


My own fantasy has always been that Mother Nature would get so fed up with our greedy stupidity, that She would stomp on us like some annoying parasite.
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Old October 24th, 2005, 05:39 PM   #27
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The antichrist:




Her minion, the false prophet:



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Old October 25th, 2005, 08:51 AM   #29
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Then it's odd that politically, the right seems to be the most willing to sell out the environment.
Well, that is the fallacy of thinking that Christian = conservative, or Christian = Republican and vice versa. I know plenty of liberal Democrat Christians.
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Well, that is the fallacy of thinking that Christian = conservative, or Christian = Republican and vice versa. I know plenty of liberal Democrat Christians.
uhh yep. I am more conservative that liberal but accord to most Christians I am gonna burn in hell!!!!


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