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View Poll Results: Prop 300?
Yes 10 37.04%
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Old October 21st, 2008, 01:10 PM   #1
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2008 Arizona Prop 300


Proposition 300 - Legislative Salary Increase

Would raise state legislators' salaries from $24,000 to $30,000


A yes vote would increase the annual legislative salary to $30,000.

A no vote would leave the pay at its current level, $24,000.


Why should I pay lawmakers more?

Proponents: Legislators are underpaid. They work four days a week for the first six months of the year, and also put in time during the remaining six months on interim committees and other duties. There hasn't been a hike in legislative pay since 1998, and a raise is overdue.

Opponents: You shouldn't. This is a part-time job, and $24,000, plus the per diem pay lawmakers receive for travel and lodging expenses, more than compensates them. (Per diem is $35 a day for Maricopa County lawmakers; $60 for those outside Maricopa County. The daily reimbursement drops to $10 and $20, respectively, after the 120th day of the legislative session.)

Will this get me a better Legislature?

Proponents: Hopefully. You get what you pay for. Many people can't afford to be a lawmaker. The job takes a lot of time, which can make it hard to also hold down an outside job. And relying on $24,000 for a salary isn't enough to cover the bills.

Opponents: ot really. Pay isn't the big factor that motivates people to run for the Legislature.
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Old October 21st, 2008, 01:29 PM   #2
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Old October 21st, 2008, 01:41 PM   #3
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Here's what I have. If any my information is wrong, please feel free to correct me. My data below was stated to me directly by the Budget Manager that I happen to have met of a major Arizona agency:
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Most everyone who runs for a Legislative spot is either a full-time businessperson, or more likely, a lawyer. They DO work part time, and are fully excused when they either have to be in court as a lawyer, or are otherwise burdened by other concerns during a legislative session.

They only work a total of 100 legislative days a year, and as mentioned in my paragraph above, they are fully excused if, during those 100 days, they are needed elsewhere.

Here's the kicker for me:

If they are able to serve for at least TWO YEARS, they are now eligible to receive a LIFETIME pension EQUIVALENT to their current salary. Meaning, after two years of "service," they are free to work elsewhere full-time, and have this state-funded money coming in, for the rest of their lives.

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Old October 21st, 2008, 01:48 PM   #4
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Here's what I have. If any my information is wrong, please feel free to correct me. My data below was stated to me directly by the Budget Manager that I happen to have met of a major Arizona agency:
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Most everyone who runs for a Legislative spot is either a full-time businessperson, or more likely, a lawyer. They DO work part time, and are fully excused when they either have to be in court as a lawyer, or are otherwise burdened by other concerns during a legislative session.

They only work a total of 100 legislative days a year, and as mentioned in my paragraph above, they are fully excused if, during those 100 days, they are needed elsewhere.

Here's the kicker for me:

If they are able to serve for at least TWO YEARS, they are now eligible to receive a LIFETIME pension EQUIVALENT to their current salary. Meaning, after two years of "service," they are free to work elsewhere full-time, and have this state-funded money coming in, for the rest of their lives.

Damn, I'm going to run as a legislator.
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Old October 23rd, 2008, 10:25 PM   #5
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Old October 29th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #6
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