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Old December 28th, 2006, 10:34 AM   #16
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I'm talking about recently. It still is tearing bodies up way too much.

My friend was golfing one day....finds a bump.....2 months later, dead. Not joking. The cause of death said cancer....but the doctors killed him. I'll always think that.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 01:20 PM   #17
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Sorry your family is going through this, 82. My uncle died of colon cancer in 2000. He was 61. They gave him six months; he lived a year. While he would tell you it was good that he had the time to right some wrongs and get himself right with God and all, his family will tell you that it was horrible to watch him slowly and painfully slip away.

I'll keep your sister-in-law and your family in my thoughts and prayers.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 02:29 PM   #18
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Sorry your family is going through this, 82. My uncle died of colon cancer in 2000. He was 61. They gave him six months; he lived a year. While he would tell you it was good that he had the time to right some wrongs and get himself right with God and all, his family will tell you that it was horrible to watch him slowly and painfully slip away.

I'll keep your sister-in-law and your family in my thoughts and prayers.

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Old December 28th, 2006, 03:55 PM   #19
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I had cancer a couple of times, did the whole chemo/radiation thing.

They told be last time that they'd given me my life's share of chemo and I was now "toxic" meaning more chemo would probably cause heart failure. One dickweed doctor told me I might not ever leave the hospital. I told him, "Bull****, I will leave right now."

I think surgery is what save me both times. If/when it comes back, I might be toast but we all got to die. I've been lucky so far.

That said, if you have inoperable cancer and can get the chemo and radiation it is selfish not to, imo.

That said I wouldn't wish chemotherapy on my worst enemy. I used to have to go sit in a bed for 5 days straight slowly getting poisoned. It is impossible to explain what that is like unless you have lived it.

Sometimes for me it seemed harder for the people that cared about me. I had accepted my fate, I could see the faces of my family and friends, worrying and trying to help me or wishing they could save me, but feeling completely helpless. I remember thinking I would never see my niece or my step son grow old.

Some friends did not coming to see me cause they figured I was a done deal and didn't want to remember me like that.

My heart goes out to all you guys. I love you all!

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Old December 28th, 2006, 04:08 PM   #20
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I had cancer a couple of times, did the whole chemo/radiation thing.

They told be last time that they'd given me my life's share of chemo and I was now "toxic" meaning more chemo would probably cause heart failure. One dickweed doctor told me I might not ever leave the hospital. I told him, "Bull****, I will leave right now."

I think surgery is what save me both times. If/when it comes back, I might be toast but we all got to die. I've been lucky so far.

That said, if you have inoperable cancer and can get the chemo and radiation it is selfish not to, imo.

That said I wouldn't wish chemotherapy on my worst enemy. I used to have to go sit in a bed for 5 days straight slowly getting poisoned. It is impossible to explain what that is like unless you have lived it.

Sometimes for me it seemed harder for the people that cared about me. I had accepted my fate, I could see the faces of my family and friends, worrying and trying to help me or wishing they could save me, but feeling completely helpless. I remember thinking I would never see my niece or my step son grow old.

Some friends did not coming to see me cause they figured I was a done deal and didn't want to remember me like that.

My heart goes out to all you guys. I love you all!

Wow KoC... Can't even begin to imagine what you've been through... Surviving two bouts of cancer is just amazing...
And I agree with you that it's harder on family. My sister-in-law has been ready to die for some time now. And these last few months, weeks and days have been excruciating for the family. She would rather it be done and over with, but unfortunately, fate has had another evil, tortorous plan...
Mad respect my friend... :notworthy
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Old December 28th, 2006, 06:42 PM   #21
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I had cancer a couple of times, did the whole chemo/radiation thing.

They told be last time that they'd given me my life's share of chemo and I was now "toxic" meaning more chemo would probably cause heart failure. One dickweed doctor told me I might not ever leave the hospital. I told him, "Bull****, I will leave right now."

I think surgery is what save me both times. If/when it comes back, I might be toast but we all got to die. I've been lucky so far.

That said, if you have inoperable cancer and can get the chemo and radiation it is selfish not to, imo.

That said I wouldn't wish chemotherapy on my worst enemy. I used to have to go sit in a bed for 5 days straight slowly getting poisoned. It is impossible to explain what that is like unless you have lived it.

Sometimes for me it seemed harder for the people that cared about me. I had accepted my fate, I could see the faces of my family and friends, worrying and trying to help me or wishing they could save me, but feeling completely helpless. I remember thinking I would never see my niece or my step son grow old.

Some friends did not coming to see me cause they figured I was a done deal and didn't want to remember me like that.

My heart goes out to all you guys. I love you all!

Dude, you are so the man. Seriously...your story is just so awesome I love hearing it every time. You are a freaking fighter.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 06:48 PM   #22
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...and we love you KoC. Seriously.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 06:54 PM   #23
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Old December 28th, 2006, 07:00 PM   #24
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Old December 28th, 2006, 07:09 PM   #25
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I am just lucky man.

The ones that deserve the respect are the children and their parents. I was 19 the first time, they put me in the pediatric unit and I saw what true life is about.

Alot of people will complain or worry that their kid isn't playing on the first team, or etc.

Being 19, and seeing the parents with their children with no hair and watching them still laugh like kids and so forth.

They didn't care if they had no hair, they weren't too worried about most of it. Just wanted to have some fun and hang with their parents and family.

I am not a saint and I sometimes overreact when I disagree with something.

Just for some levity to my experience, I once dropped acid before going into the hospital for chemo, when I was 20. I didn't freak out, I decided I had the cure for cancer, just don't fight the medicine, mind over matter. That was that only time I didn't throw up from chemo.

But of course it caused the doctors to test me for a Brain tumor.

I completely understand Lou Gehrig stated that he is the luckiest man on the face of the earth.

I think I am #2. I'll take over #1 if I get to see the Cards win the Super bowl.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 07:11 PM   #26
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I am certain that I will die of cancer.

So if I don't it is a victory.

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Old December 28th, 2006, 07:13 PM   #27
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I am certain that I will die of cancer.

So if I don't it is a victory.

Don't say that. That makes me sad.

KoC.. you're a strong person.. and I respect the fight you've waged. You're a strong man.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 07:14 PM   #28
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I love you guys!

NeZ baby! It is our stadium.

If I die I am going to have my bro sneak my ashes into the stadium and spread them on the field.

Or something.

It is weird having to think things like that.

:notworthy But thats just the way it is....
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Old December 28th, 2006, 07:23 PM   #29
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Don't say that. That makes me sad.

KoC.. you're a strong person.. and I respect the fight you've waged. You're a strong man.

All I did was keep breathing. I am lucky. Some people don't have the support system I have, or the just plain luck of the kind and locations of the cancer.

My mom is fighting it now and she is so tough, won't talk about it and (I think) lying about what her deal is. I know she is lying about it, but I know what she is doing. She is protecting everyone else from it. She only talks to me, and I don't pry her. I am scared for her, and can't do anything to help her.

I see me in her.
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KoC dude, you downplay it and all, and that is cool, but you are a hero. I have not yet been bitten by the cancer in my family but if it were to happen, I will think of you and your struggle and success as a point of hope.

People like 82 having family fighting this beast as well can look at your struggle and see the possibility that exists...not that it means their loved ones may survive, but that SOMEONE they know did, and they fought, and they won.

I saw this awesome special on videogames where they took a Make A Wish kid and his dream was to make a videogame. They had him design a game where this little boy fought off cancer cells, and they give it out to cancer patients...it is an awesome sight to see these kids playing the game and kicking ass on the screen of the stuff that is hurting them in real life. Their minds are so sharp, and they know what is happening to them.

I'd gladly endorse a tax increase if every penny of it went to finding a REAL cure for cancer, and not some pharm cure pill you have to pay your life off for, but a real, live cure.
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