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Old November 17th, 2005, 07:09 AM   #1
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Diet question


Anyone doing the Adkins diet anymore over there?

I knew this guy named Matt at my old job who shed 100 pounds on it and hasn't gained it back yet. And he does eat carbs now but in moderation...

Anyone done it before? I am not thinking of doing it but think that cutting back carbs in my diet should be a good thing....
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Old November 17th, 2005, 08:46 AM   #2
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My brother (Rook) has gone on it with some success, but it's a really hard diet to stick to. I had tried it once, and just couldn't do it. Also, it's REALLY bad with regards to cholesterol. I only learned in the last few years that the only places you get cholesterol from is from animal products (beef, chicken, pork, cheese, milk, yogurt, etc). On Atkins, you are limiting yourself to practically nothing but cholesterol. Mine runs high, so I really can't do it. If you can afford to buy the lower cholesterol type foods, then maybe. I just couldn't see the benefit of clogging my arteries to lose weight.



btw....I was thrilled to learn there is NO cholesterol in chocolate
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Old November 17th, 2005, 09:00 AM   #3
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I've heard nothing but bad things about Atkins.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 05:15 AM   #4
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Hmm, that is great that I did not get a bunch of hate on the adkins stuff.

It is hard to stick to but I guess I am just trying to cut down on carbs. Oh and diet cokes. They actually make me hungrier than anything else...

I will let you know after a week of the diet...
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Old November 18th, 2005, 08:25 AM   #5
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I did this diet a while ago and it worked great. I didn’t need to lose weight, but my wife was doing it, so I joined along. I was surprised that I actually lost some fat without ever being hungry. It’s really only a pain in the butt for the first two weeks, then you can start to add back some good carbs. I would suggest that you follow it to the letter for the first two weeks at least. I haven’t met anyone that did this and didn’t have success.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:16 PM   #6
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Why aren't more people doing it for the loss of pounds then? This seems strange if the only problem is eating a lot of meat....
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:26 PM   #7
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It gets a lot of bad press because it isn’t a balanced diet. However, it is meant to be a weight-loss diet – not a permanent eating behavior. Once you reach your target weight then you start to add back foods until you find out the point at which you start to regain weight.
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Old November 30th, 2005, 01:58 PM   #8
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It gets a lot of bad press because it isn’t a balanced diet. However, it is meant to be a weight-loss diet – not a permanent eating behavior. Once you reach your target weight then you start to add back foods until you find out the point at which you start to regain weight.
That's very true. I did it for a while but I just got sick of eating so much meat and fat (even tho I managed to lose 25lbs).

Then I started adding more carbs, little by little, but lost track of the total calories I was taking in so I gained 10lbs back.

So now I'm watching the bad carbs (no sugar, white flour, potatoes) as well as trying to keep calorie count and fat grams in check. In other words, like the South Beach Diet.

But it's a pain to have to go thru life watching every morsel of food that goes in your mouth!
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Old December 5th, 2005, 05:17 PM   #9
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Dr. Weil makes more sense than anyone that I have heard of in relation to healthy living and diet. Here is a breakdown of different diets:


Answer (Published 06/11/2004)
At the nutrition conference I helped organize in Tucson in March 2004 for medical professionals, we discussed the proliferation, popularity, strengths and weaknesses of fad diets. Here's a rundown of the pros and cons of those we focused on:
  • The ZONE: On the plus side, The ZONE encourages people to exercise, drink lots of water, and limit carbohydrates while balancing proteins and fat. It distinguishes between good and bad fats and better and worse carbohydrates. However, I do not like its suggestion that food should be regarded as a drug to manipulate your hormones and metabolism – that is not a healthy attitude toward food and eating. Overall, however, the ZONE is one of the better diets out there.
  • The Perricone Diet: Touted as "the wrinkle cure," this diet, devised by a dermatologist, holds that eating high-quality animal protein (excluding red meat) as well as healthy fats, lots of fresh berries and pure-water will reduce inflammatory changes in the body and thereby prevent wrinkles. These recommendations are good, but there is no scientific evidence that any eating plan can prevent or eliminate wrinkles. Also, Dr. Perricone tells you to eat an immoderate amount of salmon and fails to warn about the dangers of farmed salmon.
  • The Ornish Diet: Mainly a very low-fat, vegetarian plan, this diet, in combination with group support, stress reduction, and moderate exercise, was devised to halt (even reverse) coronary heart disease. In my view the emphasis on very low-fat intake is obsolete and fails to take note of the important distinction between high and low glycemic-load
    carbohydrate foods. Most people not facing invasive cardiac procedures will not have the motivation to stick with this restrictive diet.
  • The South Beach Diet: Devised by a noted cardiologist, this diet requires you to eliminate carbohydrates for two weeks and then add back specific, low glycemic-load carbs. Its weaknesses are that you don’t count calories or control portion size, exercise isn’t addressed, and I think there is too much emphasis on meat. The underlying assumption is that if you’re overweight, you must be insulin resistant, which isn’t true for everyone.
  • The Atkins Diet: Here you also eliminate most carbs and don’t count calories. My major objection to this one is its failure to distinguish between good and bad fats (olive oil and other monounsaturates being the good ones and saturated and polyunsaturates the unhealthy ones). Similarly, there isn’t enough emphasis on fiber, vitamins and minerals, all of which are important in disease prevention. If you’re on Atkins, you miss out on health-protective phytochemicals found in fruits and many vegetables and don’t learn to differentiate between healthy low glycemic-load carbs and less healthy high-glycemic load ones. Some studies have shown that short-term use of the Atkins diet is safe and effective for weight loss. Many physicians are concerned about long-term health risks.
Despite the popularity of these diets, in the long run, the best way to achieve and maintain weight is to eat less and exercise more. Eat the right amounts of the right kinds of foods, and re-learn what it means to be more physically active.

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Old December 9th, 2005, 01:19 PM   #10
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Despite the popularity of these diets, in the long run, the best way to achieve and maintain weight is to eat less and exercise more. Eat the right amounts of the right kinds of foods, and re-learn what it means to be more physically active. [/b]

LOL. People want to drop all this weight on the atkins, but won't get up off the couch. There is no magic solution to losing weight and keeping it off. The best way to me is just watch what you eat, and walk every now and then.


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btw....I was thrilled to learn there is NO cholesterol in chocolate
Milk Chocolate has cholesterol, dark chocolate doesn't! Pure chocolate doesn't have cholesterol. However, the favorite of Americans, milk chocolate does! Since it's the health forum, thought I'd just throw it out there....
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It is almost magic if you follow it strictly. My wife sprained her ankle very badly and couldn’t really move around for four weeks. She decided to go on Atkins so she wouldn’t gain any weight while she was stuck sitting around for a month. She ended up losing about 7 pounds.

As far as keeping it off I agree. When you go back to a more balanced diet you will need to find a way to burn those carbs.
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I lost 55 pounds now on my diet since March 2005. It's called watch what and how much you eat. Get off your A$$ and excercise, although I have been deficient in that regard, and weigh yourself EACH day! If you weigh more today than you did yesterday, then cut back on the calories, excercise more, and keep on going!

The problem with Americans, is we want to eat a LOT of something. All these fad diets are designed to let you eat all the (insert food type here) you want and still lose weight! Plus we want that with NO excercise! The problem with these diets is you always cut out something you need and/or add something or too much of something you should watch.

I took a honors nutrition class in college, and the bottom line was a moderate diet of a VARIETY of food, plus excercise. All the research I did convinced me of that. What did I do with that knowledge? I spent 15 years overeating, underexcersizing, and becoming fat and lazy!

It's easier said than done to take care of yourself in America, where we have machines to do all our labor and keep us in comfort, meanwhile the variety of fast, cheap, fattening foods await our dining pleasure everywhere! We really do live in the best place on earth! It's hard not to take over advantage of that!
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Milk Chocolate has cholesterol, dark chocolate doesn't! Pure chocolate doesn't have cholesterol. However, the favorite of Americans, milk chocolate does! Since it's the health forum, thought I'd just throw it out there....
Destroy my dreams, why don't you??? The tears just won't stop pouring....HOW COULD YOU???? And DAMN whoever it was that misinformed me!! (Although I should have known better if I thought about it--Milk Chocolate---MILK--duh--I know Milk has cholesterol...) I HATE dark chocolate....bleh.
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Destroy my dreams, why don't you??? The tears just won't stop pouring....HOW COULD YOU???? And DAMN whoever it was that misinformed me!! (Although I should have known better if I thought about it--Milk Chocolate---MILK--duh--I know Milk has cholesterol...) I HATE dark chocolate....bleh.
I LOVE dark chocolate! My god! It's like manna from heaven! I like my chocolate dark, like my women!
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