Ultimate Fight Night 8 Show Results

Diamondback Jay · January 25th, 2007, 04:05 PM

PRELIM FIGHT RESULTS

Fight #1:
-Rich Clementi vs. Ross Pointon

Round 1: Round one opens with the two feeling each other out. Clementi working leg kicks. Not a ton of action. A Clementi round.

Round 2: Round two saw the finish of the fight. Similar to the first round early on until later in the round when Clementi got Pointon on the ground, took his back, and secured the rear naked choke for the submission victory.

Rich Clementi def. Ross Pointon via Submission (rear naked choke) in Round 2.

Fight #2:
-Din Thomas vs. Clay Guida

Round 1: Awesome round, Guida's. He did more effective damage throughout the round with some good ground and pound at one point.

Round 2: Another good round, this one went to Thomas. Thomas avoided takedowns and was out-striking him to win the round 10-9.

Round 3: Great fight, went the distance though so probably won't make the air. Third round was all standing, with both guys seemingly tired. Guida kept trying for takedowns but couldn't get any. This round was close, but probably Din's.

Din Thomas def. Clay Guida via Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28) after 3 Rounds.

Fight #3:
-Ed Herman vs. Chris Price

Round 1: Didn't get out of the first. The two felt each other out standing briefly, before the fight hit the floor. Eventually, Herman secured an armbar forcing the tapout and victory.

Ed Herman def. Chris Price via Submission (armbar) in Round 1.

Fight #4:
-Josh Burkman vs. Chad Reiner

Round 1: Didn't get much details on this one. Apparently Burkman got a ton of takedowns and controlled the action. At one point, Burkman even did a whicked suplex takedown/slam.

Round 2: Was said to be a similar round to the first, with Burkman getting takedowns and will and completely controlling the fight.

Round 3: Another similar round. Burkman with several takedowns and effective ground and pound.

Josh Burkman def. Chad Reiner via Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27) after 3 Rounds.

Fight #5:
-Nathan Marquardt vs. Dean Lister

Round 1: Most of the round was Marquardt out-striking Lister. On the ground, he was dominating from the top position. Clear-cut round for Marquardt.

Round 2: More of the same here, Marquardt is clearly winning this fight.

Round 3: Marquardt knocked Lister down multiple times with knees and punches, but would let him back up. Total domination by Marquardt.

Nathan Marquardt def. Dean Lister via Unanimous Decision (30-25, 30-25, 30-25) after 3 Rounds.

Divide Et Impera · January 25th, 2007, 04:15 PM

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(30-25, 30-25, 30-25)

Must have been UGLY for Lister! It's not too often that a fighter gets an 8 point round, let alone 2 in the same fight!!!

Diamondback Jay · January 25th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Oh yeah. Marquardt beat the hell out of him.. The score was a lot closer than the fight actually was, if that makes sense.

Also, not to spoil things for you here, but be prepared to see one of the greatest knockouts in UFC history tonight. This guy was knocked out cold for over 10 minutes. I honest to God thought the guy was dead.

Divide Et Impera · January 25th, 2007, 07:51 PM

I missed it tonight. I just got back from a dinner for my mother-in-law's b-day. Yeah, I know.

Anyways, I'm gonna guess that Herring KTFO'd O'Brien because I just don't see Rashad (as quick and athletic as he is) KTFO'ing anyone. We all know Herring has major KO power.

I really would have liked to have seen the Franca-Fisher fight. It's just too bad I had to miss this. It was actually a really good card for a free fight.

Any major announcements?

Diamondback Jay · January 25th, 2007, 09:46 PM

Herring lost by Unanimous Decision
Franca knocked out Fisher..

Anddddddddddddddddd

the major knockout was actually who you said WOULDN'T be able to..

Rashad absolutely CRUSHED Salmon with a high kick knockout in Round 2..

Here's consequential evidence..

Divide Et Impera · January 26th, 2007, 04:09 AM

So, I guess I was a bit off....

Does Franca's win make him the top contender for Sherk? Fisher was probably the odds on favorite before this loss. I like Franca a lot and I think he'll make an interesting fight for Sherk, though I honestly don't know if anyone can hang with that beast....

devilfan02 · January 26th, 2007, 10:42 AM

The Herring/ O'Brien fight was awful. Not only was Herring completely overhyped but he looked like he's never fought before. He had no sprawl whatsoever and his standup looked like garbage. He looked like an idiot in that crouched over stance he was using (guess he was using it as a takedown defense which clearly didn't work). He has one of the worst ground games I've ever seen.

O'Brien is clearly a good wrestler but it ends there. The guy had full mount on Herring 10+ times and didn't do a damn thing. Also, how many times was O'Brien gonna take Herrings back and do absolutely nothing? O'Brien has zero submission moves and his standup was subpar as well. The kid can wrestle which clearly won him that fight.

Herring acted like a little baby at the end of the fight. Repeatedly said this isn't wrestling and that the fight should have stayed up. Guess what Herring, this is MMA..... Wrestling is part of the art, if you don't like it then switch sports and become a boxer.

Overall, both fighters sucked IMO

Divide Et Impera · January 26th, 2007, 10:28 PM

I was finally able to download and watch the fights.

You can go to this link and download each fight individually:

http://forums.mmanews.com/showthread.php?t=5537

You can go to this link and download the entire show:

http://www.megarotic.com/?d=4U60RD73

Nevermind the porn sounding name. While the pics on the link are not work safe, all you have to do is type in the 3 letter code in the text box at the top right and click 'Download'. It takes about 45 seconds before you have to click another 'Download' button. It downloads as a Winamp file, so if you do not have Winamp, you'll need to download that before you can view the file.

Franca-Fisher was as entertaining as I knew it would be. Fisher is an excellent striker. He presses the action so much and he is technically sound on his feet. Franca's striking is not so disciplined. He throws these wild, looping punches, but that's what ultimately got him the win. In spite of this loss, Fisher should still be a top contender. Imagine the fireworks of a Sherk-Fisher fight! The LW division has all the speed and action you could ask for....

What more can be said about that lightning quick arm bar Herman laid on Price? He got his position and quickly transitioned into the arm bar. There's no defense at that point....

O'Brien completely took Herring out of the game altogether. He frustrated him on the feet by keeping distance and making himself a constantly moving target and Herring's frustration was evident. O'Brien must have scored on 100% of his takedown attempts. There was absolutely no defense to the takedown from Herring. I was surprised not only at how easily Herring went down, but by how much Herring gave up his back. I understand that he was trying to escape backdoor, but any other fither with even the most basic submission skills would have choked Herring out by the 5th time he gave up his back. In the end, Herring just couldn't respond to outright superior fight strategy....

Evans absolutely timed and placed that kick on Salmon PERFECTLY! The 2 subsequent solid punches to Salmon's face while he was out cold couldn't have helped matters. Salmon definitely won round 1. He come in with this awkward, unconventional fighting style and Evans just couldn't settle into it in round 1. Ultimately, it was Salmon's rope-a-dope style that left him open for that kick. BTW, what was up with that flying Karate Kid cran kick at the beginning of the fight? He was like 5 feet away from Evans when he attempted that one!

FYI - Salmon was taken to the hospital for precautionary reasons, but he is fine:

http://forums.mmanews.com/showthread.php?t=5536

http://ufcjunkie.com/

Divide Et Impera · January 26th, 2007, 10:28 PM

Yes!

devilfan02 · January 27th, 2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Divide Et Impera

Yes!

The best part about that ghost kick was when Salmon completed it, Rogan said "OH NO!" It was hilarious, the way Rogan said it was classic (like "what the hell was that? Don't ever do that again!"). It was great

Divide Et Impera · January 27th, 2007, 02:19 PM

Regarding Heath Herring:

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From: Joe Rogan
Date: 01/26/07 06:23 PM
2556 Total Posts

I talked to Heath last night after the fight at a restaurant, and he told me he had a torn MCL for that fight. That's why he had that weird stance, and that's why he couldn't explode off his back or sprawl. I told him that I wished that I had known that before the fight because it explains a lot, but he said he didn't want to give any excuses. That's a credit to the way he thinks, but it's not really an excuse as much as it's an explanation. This is taking nothing away from Jake, because I think Jake fought a great fight and displayed some solid skills, but anyone that's seen Heath fight before knows that wasn't him out there.

I know some people thought I was a little harsh in my commentary, and I understand that, but I've got to be honest. It wasn't insulting, it was just exactly how I saw it. Knowing now about the injury, it all makes sense, and i wish I had that info while the fight was going on. I've always been a fan of Heath and the way he fights, so I'm really looking forward to him healing up so we can see him fight up to potential that I know he's capable of. Best wishes and a speedy recovery to Heath.

Diamondback Jay · January 27th, 2007, 03:37 PM

Let's not totally **** on O'Brien here either.

I'm not saying Herring's MCL injury didn't hinder him. However, there's two reasons O'Brien won that fight.

1) His takedown ability is on par with anyone in the heavyweight division (not named Randy Couture). O'Brien's a former two time All-American at Heavyweight when at Purdue.

2) Herring's biggest weapon in Pride was his ability to throw knees with the best of them. Knees are one of the rules outlawed by the UFC.

I do know Heath is better than he looked at Ultimate Fight Night though. However, I said from the get-go that O'Brien was a bad matchup for him.

Divide Et Impera · January 28th, 2007, 06:16 AM

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2) Herring's biggest weapon in Pride was his ability to throw knees with the best of them. Knees are one of the rules outlawed by the UFC.

Uh, try telling that to Rich Franklin....

Diamondback Jay · January 29th, 2007, 09:58 AM

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Uh, try telling that to Rich Franklin....

Talking about two different dimensions here. Knees are legal in standing, but when on the mat, they're not allowed.

Divide Et Impera · January 29th, 2007, 12:03 PM

Oh. You gotta specify. I suppose you are talking about the North-South position?