Rampage Jackson to fight Chuck Liddell at UFC 71

Diamondback Jay · February 16th, 2007, 08:17 PM

At Mandalay Bay in Vega$ in May.

Divide Et Impera · February 23rd, 2007, 10:37 AM

Yes!!!

devilfan02 · February 23rd, 2007, 10:41 AM

Wow! That's gonna be a great fight

Finito · February 24th, 2007, 12:04 AM

Great fight a few years ago when Rampage was actually good. Prime Rampage always beats Prime Chuck there first fight was a complete beatdown that ended with Chuck literally screaming on the ground with Rampage on top caving in his ribs.

Rampage has had it beaten out of him and once its beaten out of you it never comes back. That KO by Silva was one of the most brutal things I have ever seen Rampage looked like he was dead just hanging over the ropes like that. He's clearly past it

Chuck is...well the same thing he's always been, great straight right and take down defense. He has'nt changed still trains with the exact same guys in the exact same ways.

I reallt dont think to much of Chuck he's a nice fighter but very flawed he's just been protected in the UCF cause there weak at the top. Who has he really fought during his run as Champion? Tito? weak chin, mentally soft and cant strike to save his life and I say that being a huge Tito fan, Randy? dude is 53 years old, Horn and Babalu are both second rate.

All that being said I pick Chuck KO 2

Divide Et Impera · February 24th, 2007, 08:23 AM

I disagree with so many of your points. Chuck just can't be moved in on. he keeps his distance and has a super quick sprawl. You can't get him down. Both Couture and Ortiz's games are on the ground, so Chuck's style wins out over their style thanks to his vastly superior takedown defense.

Horn is a much experienced (over 100 pro fights), much respected and well rounded fighter. Again, Chuck took a world class fighter out of his game completely. Horn beat Chuck early in Chuck's career. Did you forget about that? It's about gameplan. Chuck got subbed by Horn a long time ago, but in the rematch, Chuck didn't let him get that close. Chuck gameplanned that one and dominated. Any time Horn got close, Chuck looped some heat at his face and jaw.

Same thing with Babalu. Chuck looped some heat at Sobral's chin AS HE WAS BACKPEDALLING. Again, Chuck's gameplan was to keep it on the feet and Sobral over extended himself trying to get inside on Chuck and he got caught.

With regards to Rampage, the beating he took from Silva was a beating taken from one of the premier and greates fighters in the world. If Silva and Chuck fought, Silva wins 9 out of 10 times. Would you hold Silva's domination of Henderson against Henderson? No. Up close, Silva is like a damned wolverine with his strikes. Then he can dominate in the clinch and devastate you with knees and on the ground he can either sub you or ground and pound you out. Silva is as well rounded as Fedor, period.

What Rampage is good about doing is blocking punches with his elbows. If he sees a punch coming, he blocks that entire side of his head by bringing his elbow and arm up quickly and ducking his head down. That's how he neutralized Chuck in the original match up. In the fight against Eastman, I didn't see the same fast twitch quickness out of Jackson that he has displayed in the past. So, he may have passed his prime, but it''s not because Silva beat it out of him.

Finito · February 24th, 2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Divide Et Impera

I disagree with so many of your points. Chuck just can't be moved in on. he keeps his distance and has a super quick sprawl. You can't get him down. Both Couture and Ortiz's games are on the ground, so Chuck's style wins out over their style thanks to his vastly superior takedown defense.

Horn is a much experienced (over 100 pro fights), much respected and well rounded fighter. Again, Chuck took a world class fighter out of his game completely. Horn beat Chuck early in Chuck's career. Did you forget about that? It's about gameplan. Chuck got subbed by Horn a long time ago, but in the rematch, Chuck didn't let him get that close. Chuck gameplanned that one and dominated. Any time Horn got close, Chuck looped some heat at his face and jaw.

Same thing with Babalu. Chuck looped some heat at Sobral's chin AS HE WAS BACKPEDALLING. Again, Chuck's gameplan was to keep it on the feet and Sobral over extended himself trying to get inside on Chuck and he got caught.

With regards to Rampage, the beating he took from Silva was a beating taken from one of the premier and greates fighters in the world. If Silva and Chuck fought, Silva wins 9 out of 10 times. Would you hold Silva's domination of Henderson against Henderson? No. Up close, Silva is like a damned wolverine with his strikes. Then he can dominate in the clinch and devastate you with knees and on the ground he can either sub you or ground and pound you out. Silva is as well rounded as Fedor, period.

What Rampage is good about doing is blocking punches with his elbows. If he sees a punch coming, he blocks that entire side of his head by bringing his elbow and arm up quickly and ducking his head down. That's how he neutralized Chuck in the original match up. In the fight against Eastman, I didn't see the same fast twitch quickness out of Jackson that he has displayed in the past. So, he may have passed his prime, but it''s not because Silva beat it out of him.

Ortiz was never really that good and his shoot is amature at best he gets guys on the cage and then brings them down and Randy is OLD its just that simple. You seen what happend when a close to prime Randy fought Chuck but when he lost a step it was all over. Thos guys if they cant take you down there helpless they have no plan B.

Horn and Babalu are just bad plain and simple no if and ors buts about it, Maybe bad is to strong. Name me one major championship either of those guys have won. There alright fighter but far from great. Like the two fighters mentioned before neither one of them can do anything if they cant get you down. One dimensional again.

If he had fought in Pride and had to go up against Shogun, Silva, Rampage, Lil Nog, Arona then you could say he was fighting World Class guys but guys like Horn, Babalu, Tito and an old Randy just dont measure up.

Rampage took two beatings from Silva and both ended in brutal KO's. He was given a gift over Ninja and Shogun destroyed him. He is clearly past it and it is because of all the wars he's been in namely the two Silva fights. No Silva is not as well rounded as Fedor...no one is. Silva's not even the best guy out of his own camp now.

Henderson is great but he is also much smaller.