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I know its not his fault the judges messed up the scoring for the individual all around, and he clearly performed his best, but the Korean dude did better.
Personally I would give up the medal and except the bronze, because I don't think I could handle the lifetime of second guessing and the knowledge that I didn't earn that medal 100%.
I really hope he makes the right decision and turn in the medal
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I know its not his fault the judges messed up the scoring for the individual all around, and he clearly performed his best, but the Korean dude did better.
Personally I would give up the medal and except the bronze, because I don't think I could handle the lifetime of second guessing and the knowledge that I didn't earn that medal 100%.
I really hope he makes the right decision and turn in the medal
It wasn't just the judges' fault, it was also the fault of the Koreans. All they had to do was file an appeal within 24 hours and they didn't.
If they would have simply followed the rules on these things, they would get the gold medal outright.
I know its not his fault the judges messed up the scoring for the individual all around, and he clearly performed his best, but the Korean dude did better.
Personally I would give up the medal and except the bronze, because I don't think I could handle the lifetime of second guessing and the knowledge that I didn't earn that medal 100%.
I really hope he makes the right decision and turn in the medal
I disagree. Had the judges scored the Korean correctly during the competition, it might have changed the remaining competition itself.
The Judges screwed up. The Koreans screwed up. Paul Hamm did nothing wrong. Why should Paul suffer?
And BTW, Paul would not get the bronze - regardless, it would be silver.
Paul Hamm should only give back his gold if the Koreans make their boxer give Roy Jones his......
I disagree. Had the judges scored the Korean correctly during the competition, it might have changed the remaining competition itself.
The Judges screwed up. The Koreans screwed up. Paul Hamm did nothing wrong. Why should Paul suffer?
And BTW, Paul would not get the bronze - regardless, it would be silver.
Paul Hamm should only give back his gold if the Koreans make their boxer give Roy Jones his......
Could Hamm tried a harder dificulty or tried to be a little more perfect (and risk screwing up) if the judges would have scored correctly?
I think maybe both should have gotten golds.... Mostly I feel it's the judges fault.
I disagree. Had the judges scored the Korean correctly during the competition, it might have changed the remaining competition itself.
What do you mean "MIGHT HAVE"??? It would have changed the out come, like Hamm being the bronze metalist and the Korean dude the Gold. Whats fair is fair, it was neither of the athletes fault.
My original point was, I would have already given up the medal because I didn't deserve it. It would be like going down to a trophy store and buying a bunch of golf trophys and putting them on my desk.
While Hamm does not "have to" give it up, and while I understand why he would not want to, the right thing for him to do is to be the better man and do it anyway.
His medal will always be known as the one awarded by accident. I guess he can live with knowing that he got the medal even though, based on actual scoring and performance, he did not earn it.
What do you mean "MIGHT HAVE"??? It would have changed the out come, like Hamm being the bronze metalist and the Korean dude the Gold. Whats fair is fair, it was neither of the athletes fault.
My original point was, I would have already given up the medal because I didn't deserve it. It would be like going down to a trophy store and buying a bunch of golf trophys and putting them on my desk.
First off, even had the scoring been correct, Hamm would have only been bumped to a silver, not a bronze.
And second - how would this have affected the rest of the outcome? We will never know - BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE EVENT WAS OVER - kind of like saying "if only we had gotten the right call in the 2nd quarter, we would have won......"
Unfortunately for the South Koreans you can't change the result after the game is over. Even if you got a bad call. It is part of the game. If they go back to review and change the call where is the cut off? How many others will have a case to go back and change the result?
They had a chance to challange the 9.9 start score before the medals were handed out.
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This is the first I have heard of this. Apparently I am not the male gymnastics enthusiast the rest of you are. What about the Russian (?) pair ice skaters that won over the canadians. Even when it was proven a judge fixed it, they did not give back the medal. Does anyone consider them champions? I dont think so. What good is the medal if no one sees you as a champion? A hollow victory. Might as well buy one on ebay.
Well, I just watched part of the Olympics and they were saying in a way the judges ultimately got it right.
Although there was a massive screwup in the level of difficulty given to the Korean gymnast, he would have been deducted .2 points for using too many holds on the parallel bars. They are saying that if it were scored properly, he probably wouldn't have won bronze.
Hamm deserves the gold medal
Last edited by Evil Ash; August 23rd, 2004 at 09:42 PM.
Well, I just watched part of the Olympics and they were saying in a way the judges ultimately got it right.
Although there was a massive screwup in the level of difficulty given to the Korean gymnast, he would have been deducted .2 points for using too many holds on the parallel bars. They are saying that if it were scored properly, he probably wouldn't have won bronze.
Hamm deserves the gold medal
I saw that too, and it opens up even more ?'s:
1. Do they now award a duplicate bronze?
2. Does this completly take out an after event review?
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