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Old October 6th, 2004, 10:33 AM   #16
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What happens if he loses the championship by less than 25 points?
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Old October 6th, 2004, 11:55 AM   #17
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I'm not a nascar fan...but my 3.5 year old loves it! He keeps pointing out one of the cars that has the mcdonalds logo on it.

I dunno if sponsors stick to only one driver - But I sure am curious who the driver is.
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Old October 6th, 2004, 11:56 AM   #18
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What happens if he loses the championship by less than 25 points?
Then he'll be kicking himself for cursing on TV amd Junior Nation will cry, cry, cry.
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Old October 6th, 2004, 12:00 PM   #19
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What happens if he loses the championship by less than 25 points?
Probably curse so much he'd fall completely out of the points standings.

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Old October 6th, 2004, 08:04 PM   #20
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Well I guess thats exactly what I mean.. I could go to my local garage and have done to my car what they do there. I drive streets daily. It just doesnt seem out of the ordinary as saying playing on a NFL field. Nothing seems outstanding in what they do to me.
Sorry to say but, that's where your limited knowledge and experience has left you. You don't know what is happening on the race track so you can't appreciate it.

I love the NFL too, as evidence by my intensity during the season. I have nothing but the utmost respect for what these athletes can do on a grassy field.

Racecar drivers have a never solid field to compete. You would be amazed at what a two degree temperature change can do to a car. You would be further amazed at what 150+ miles per hour really feels like.

Do you think any NFL player runs a 7 second rout wondering if this is his life? And at the end he gets to take a break for 25 seconds.

Racing has no time for regrouping. It happens on the fly. You let off because your nerves are rattled then you just lost ten spots in the blink of an eye. You need a second stringer to take your place because you're winded? Ain't gonna happen.

Like I said, I admire and enjoy everything an NFL player goes through. Sit your arse in a car at a speed you know will kill you with one wrong move and maintain that for a solid four hours with no breaks, no timeouts, and no change between defense or offense. It's just you. No team to blame, no arguement about stats, nothing other than second place is the first of many losers.

It would be like the entire NFL playing a game where all 32 teams go at it at once and only one can survive.

Racing gets a bad rap. It is one intensive sport.
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Old October 6th, 2004, 09:09 PM   #21
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Im not talking bad about nascar. It just looks extremely boring to me. Like I said earlier I watch the races sometimes, and all I do is get irritated by them. But hey, to each his own.
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Old October 8th, 2004, 03:32 PM   #23
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Im not talking bad about nascar. It just looks extremely boring to me. Like I said earlier I watch the races sometimes, and all I do is get irritated by them. But hey, to each his own.


No problem Gee, I get amped when talking about racing. Many days spent at different race tracks.
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No problem Gee, I get amped when talking about racing. Many days spent at different race tracks.
Only track I go to is Firebird to see the top fuels. Man, the 1st time I went, holy *&%#$ *^%&$ *&%(&^% !!!!!!! My eyeballs were bouncing around in their sockets when the big boys went by. I try to get out there every year for those. Missed it this year though.
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Only track I go to is Firebird to see the top fuels. Man, the 1st time I went, holy *&%#$ *^%&$ *&%(&^% !!!!!!! My eyeballs were bouncing around in their sockets when the big boys went by. I try to get out there every year for those. Missed it this year though.
Go up to Manzanita sometime. Reasonable price to get in and some fun racing. You can watch some real doofus' in bombers or go up in classes and see some decent drivers and you can really get a feel for quality local racing. Check out sprints some time as well. I think that is the finest racing out at Manzy.

Seeing it live and feeling the thunder and seeing the whole track at once essentially puts it in a much different light.

Went to my very first NASCAR race last year and while TV can give you the glitz and glamor, being there live is much better.
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Go up to Manzanita sometime. Reasonable price to get in and some fun racing. You can watch some real doofus' in bombers or go up in classes and see some decent drivers and you can really get a feel for quality local racing. Check out sprints some time as well. I think that is the finest racing out at Manzy.

Seeing it live and feeling the thunder and seeing the whole track at once essentially puts it in a much different light.

Went to my very first NASCAR race last year and while TV can give you the glitz and glamor, being there live is much better.
I went Manzanita as a kid. Dont remember much. Just the big air wings on top of the cars.
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Stewart angered by Earnhardt penalty

By MIKE HARRIS, AP Motorsports Writer
October 9, 2004

KANSAS CITY, Kan. (AP) --
Tony Stewart took a verbal swipe at NASCAR on Saturday, insisting friend and competitor Dale Earnhardt Jr. should not have lost points for cursing during a live TV interview last weekend.

Instead of leading by 13 points, Earnhardt enters Sunday's Banquet 400 at Kansas Speedway trailing Kurt Busch by 12 points after the third of 10 races in NASCAR's new playoff-style championship format. Junior was fined $10,000 and docked 25 points for using inappropriate language during the interview in Victory Lane at Talladega.

Stewart, long NASCAR's bad boy, is no stranger to penalties. Most recently, he was fined $50,000, had 25 points taken away and was placed on probation for allegedly hitting Brian Vickers during a postrace confrontation in June at Sonoma.

But the severity of Earnhardt's penalty irritated the 2002 series champion.

``I think we're starting to nitpick and scrutinize way too much in this series,'' the often outspoken Stewart said. ``Since when does something that somebody says have an effect on winning the championship?

``What he said didn't cheat anybody on the racetrack. It didn't have any effect on how the race was run. That (penalty) can have an effect on millions of dollars and how their sponsors have to handle this now, and the pressure it has put on their team. It's been totally unfair to him and his race team.''

Stewart also wondered what other missteps might result in a penalty from NASCAR.

``What's going to be the next thing?'' he asked. ``If we don't show up to the car for practice on time are we going to lose 25 points for that next? Where is it realistically going to end?''

NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter said he talked with Stewart about his objections to the Earnhardt penalty.

``I appreciate Tony's candor, and I think everybody else in NASCAR management appreciates that candor,'' Hunter said. ``This is another case that there is some strong disagreement.''

Earnhardt suggested on Friday that NASCAR consider changing its policy on non-competition penalties and simply raising the fines to $100,000 or $200,000 for slips of the tongue like his.

``The reason we got into penalizing points as opposed to just money was because penalizing money was not getting the job done,'' Hunter said. ``Whether you agree or disagree, we promote this sport as a family sport. As a result of that, to get their attention, we use the loss of points.''

Hunter also pointed to the precedent that was set earlier this year when Busch Series drivers Johnny Sauter and Ron Hornaday Jr. were both docked 25 points for cursing during live radio interviews.

``In this particular instance, with the precedent having been set, we think this was the right decision,'' Hunter said. ``At the end of this season, as we do every year, I'm sure we'll review the whole season.

Meanwhile, the championship battle goes on with the top nine drivers bunched within 159 points of the lead.

Jeff Gordon, who has won two of the three previous Kansas races, is third in the points, followed by Mark Martin, defending series champion Matt Kenseth, Stewart, Ryan Newman, Elliott Sadler, Jimmie Johnson and Jeremy Mayfield.

Newman, 146 points behind Busch, is the defending race winner and is hopeful of getting back into the championship hunt.

``I think the rest of the season is all about racetracks and not what you might get caught up in and what you might not get caught up in,'' Newman said. ``It's just racing.

``I think we've got top fives at every track in the next seven, so I hope we'll be good. That has usually been our strong part of the season the past two years.''

Stewart, who trails the leader by 139 points, came from far behind in the second half of his championship season and remains confident he can still compete for another title with seven races remaining.

``We're close enough right now in the points that, theoretically, we could even be leading or be second in the points at the end of the day tomorrow,'' Stewart said. ``Seven weeks is a long time and it's not out of my reach by any means.

``Everybody in the chase is still in it. Anything can happen in this series from week to week and nobody is mathematically eliminated, yet.''
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Old October 9th, 2004, 02:50 PM   #28
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I went Manzanita as a kid. Dont remember much. Just the big air wings on top of the cars.
The World of Outlaws series was great! I haven't heard much from them lately though. Man, I've seen some great Swindell and Kinser battles. Those were always fun to watch.
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I went out to Canyon Race Way, out by Lake Pleasant, a few times. That was always fun.

They race beat up stock cars on a dirt track.

I wonder if they still do that?
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I went out to Canyon Race Way, out by Lake Pleasant, a few times. That was always fun.

They race beat up stock cars on a dirt track.

I wonder if they still do that?
Actually they race all kinds of stuff out there.

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