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Originally posted by cardsfan473 as long as she has to play from the same tees, and uses the same compression golf ball as the others, then I have no problem with it. I think she deserves the chance.
I think some of these other golfers are worried she'll kick their butts. That is why they are so opposed to it...
The issue that the other golfers have is that she circumvented the normal route to get into the tournament. If she really wanted to "deserve the chance" she would have gone to the Monday qualifiers, just like all the others who weren't qualified to play based on their past play.
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Originally posted by Card Trader I'd love to see those guys who barely make the field each week by exemption or qualifying go into the womens tour now and dominate. It's only fair.
Yeah, that'd show 'em.
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Russ, the reason a lot of women's leagues started in the first place is because women weren't allowed to play in the men's leagues. So, saying that the LPGA is discriminating against men is kinda weird since the LPGA formed out of discrimation against women.
If she makes it, people will follow her every move. That can't be fun ... unless you're a narcissist.
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Originally posted by SECTION 11 Yeah, that'd show 'em.
Ok, why not? What's the difference? If we're gonna cross compete why not expand it, tennis, hockey, basketball, soccer(just for you) and so on. If a guy can't hack it on the mens tour in any of those sports, just hop on over to the womens. And likewise if a woman feels she is just sooooo much better than her competition jump on up to the mens field. I mean, that is what this is all about right?
Originally posted by brews The issue that the other golfers have is that she circumvented the normal route to get into the tournament. If she really wanted to "deserve the chance" she would have gone to the Monday qualifiers, just like all the others who weren't qualified to play based on their past play.
Actually she got there the same way a bunch of other people who dont deserve there did thru a sponser exemption. Sponsers alot of times give exemptions to guys(mainly celebreties) who will then not make the final cut, this is the sponsers way of drawing more attention to thier product this increasing tv revenue and other sponsership oppurtinities. She is not taking anything away from any legitimate contender, all she took away from is the ability for a bob barker to get to play a couple of rounds of free golf.
Secondly my personal opinion is if she can make the cut let her play. The LPGA is an amature league for all intents and purposes and therefor if an amatuer male wants to go play on their tournment I think they should have every right to. But i do not think any professional golfer should have the right to play in the LPGA. On the other side I think the PGA really should be "the best of the best" regardless of age, sex, or race, based strictly on talent.
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Originally posted by Card Trader Actually he was dead on.
I do not think so. I think he sounded like a sexist, ignorant dolt. As long as she plays from the same tees, and under the same rules as the guys, I don't see the problem. I think Vijay is scared of getting beat.
The bottom line is PGA stand for Professional Golfers Association. Annika is a professional golfer. She fits the bill.
LPGA stands for Ladies Professional Golfers Association. Unless some of the men are willing to undergo radical surgery in order to play in LPGA tourneys, they really don't fit the bill.
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Originally posted by Card Trader Ok, why not? What's the difference? If we're gonna cross compete why not expand it, tennis, hockey, basketball, soccer(just for you) and so on. If a guy can't hack it on the mens tour in any of those sports, just hop on over to the womens. And likewise if a woman feels she is just sooooo much better than her competition jump on up to the mens field. I mean, that is what this is all about right?
I guess there's no reason why you couldn't. but why would you want to?
These guys are competitors. They're athletes. Yes, they make their money playing golf, but they also thrive off the level of competition. Do you think someone like Phil Mickelson, who could finally get his major at the Nabisco Classic on the Women's Tour, would finally feel vindicated by that win? I doubt it. Even the "Bad" golfers on the PGA tour make good bank, and have a great time at what they're doing, and probably go into every tournament feeling like they have a legitimate shot at winning it (and, truthfully, they kind of do). That's where the pride comes into play.
Do you think that any guy that sues to get into the LPGA and then "dominates" the field for five years is going to go visit his friends at Augusta or the U.S. Open and get a bunch of high fives for "showin' 'em who's boss"? Please. They wouldn't be able to show their faces anywhere. They'd be a punchline.
Annika doesn't want to play in the PGA. She looked for a tournament that suited her skills best, and then said, "Well, if you want to give me an exemption to this tour stop, I'd go." She wants to get some exposure, and maybe make a statement about women's golf. All the middling players are trying to get some exposure for themselves, as well. What's the BFD here?
Originally posted by Cardinal Bob I think Vijay is scared of getting beat.
You can't be serious? One of the top 5 golfers in the world WORRIED about a woman beating him? Cmon man.....he just thinks that it is a mens only tourney and that there are men that scrap and fight to qualify and or get a sponsors exemption to make the tourney so they can MAYBE do something special and make the cut and bring home a pay check to their families.
Maybe Joe Blow get's that 75th spot that Annika(sp?) is taking up and he makes the cut and get's a $12,000 check maybe that is the last bit he needed to be high enough on the money list to keep his card next year? Maybe his family won't have Ramen this weekend for dinner.
Annika goes in and makes the cut? No big deal, she is set money wise...she doesnt' NEED it.
If a woman is going to come in and take a mans spot on the tour or tournament then a man has ever right to do whatever it takes to make a dollar, if that means going the other way to the womens tour so be it.
It isn't a one way street folks, you can't do one thing and expect someone else not to follow suit. This is hypocracy in it's highest form.
Originally posted by Card Trader If a guy can't hack it on the mens tour in any of those sports, just hop on over to the womens. And likewise if a woman feels she is just sooooo much better than her competition jump on up to the mens field. I mean, that is what this is all about right?
If you're going to apply Occam's Razor to the situation, make sure you sharpen it a little.
It's about a golf tournament pulling off a PR stunt. The extrapolation you're making is rediculous.
I hope some hack guy golfer does try to get into a LPGA event. It'd be hilarious.
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LPGA stands for Ladies Professional Golfers Association. Unless some of the men are willing to undergo radical surgery in order to play in LPGA tourneys, they really don't fit the bill.
According to my source, the LPGA rules states you must be born a female to compete in the LPGA tour. Sorry, surgery will not cut it... Excuse the pun...
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Originally posted by CardNots According to my source, the LPGA rules states you must be born a female to compete in the LPGA tour. Sorry, surgery will not cut it... Excuse the pun...
Then isn't that discrimination? Maybe the men should get Martha Burke to represent them in this one....since after all, she is all about equality.
If a woman is going to come in and take a mans spot on the tour or tournament then a man has ever right to do whatever it takes to make a dollar, if that means going the other way to the womens tour so be it.
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She is not taking a regular tour golfers spot. The sponser's exemptions are typically used for Celebs, local pros, local amateurs, etc.
Originally posted by SECTION 11
It's about a golf tournament pulling off a PR stunt. The extrapolation you're making is rediculous.
You are absolutely right....however, this woman accepting this "PR stunt" could be costing a golfer his tour card.
This coulda been Joe Blow's 1 shot, his last shot......pretty shitty for a wealthy female golfer who could be out playing in one of her own tourneys, to deprive Joe Blow from what might be his only shot is pretty selfish.
She isn't gonna stay on the tour, so whats the fricken point? Why come to one tournament and most likely embrass yourself and take that spot from someone that works week in and week out to obtain it? Why?
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