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Old August 10th, 2007, 12:25 AM   #16
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The guy is signed for 5 years. I'm sure the Galaxy can afford to sit back and wait for a few games in a season that really doesn't mean that much. It would suck a bit if he came in for 10 minutes 4 games ago and reinjured the ankle. To say he's a waste is ludicrous. And frankly, very American.

The Galaxy are an awful team. You could see it on Beckham's face as he was sitting on the sideline. They have some dynamic players, but they cannot pass worth a damn. It's very frustrating to watch. They should be better than they are. I've never seen a "pro" team suck that much at passing the ball.
I dont see how this can be viewed as a success.. All the hype that he got is quickly fading and he has hardly played.. Any casual American that was interested never got the chance to see what it was all about.. Now, everyone has moved on while Beckham sat on the bench and its almost football season and even less casual fans will be interested.. So yeah, Id consider that a waste..
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Old August 10th, 2007, 12:37 AM   #17
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I dont see how this can be viewed as a success.. All the hype that he got is quickly fading and he has hardly played.. Any casual American that was interested never got the chance to see what it was all about.. Now, everyone has moved on while Beckham sat on the bench and its almost football season and even less casual fans will be interested.. So yeah, Id consider that a waste..
"Casual" fans weren't going to all of a sudden become soccer fans overnight anyway. You want him to be this superman from day 1. Even if he was healthy, there is always a period of time where he's just getting used to the team. Michael Jordan didn't automatically make the Wizards the best team in the NBA when he started playing for them.

The sport already has more fans than hockey, and as much as you think it's a waste, tell that to every stadium that's being filled with people, regardless of if he plays or not. If he doesn't play, then it's almost guaranteed that the next time the Galaxy come to town, that game will also be a sell-out. Half the season is over, and the Galaxy have only 14 points. The top team in their conference has 34. The Galaxy aren't sniffing the playoffs.

Sure, of course they wanted him to play. But hey, he signed the contract before the ankle injury, and again, it's not like he's only here for a couple weeks. They'd much rather him be healthy for the next 5 years then play him in a couple meaningless games that have already sold out. I mean, Chelsea (the first game he appeared in) was just a friendly.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 12:44 AM   #18
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"Casual" fans weren't going to all of a sudden become soccer fans overnight anyway. You want him to be this superman from day 1. Even if he was healthy, there is always a period of time where he's just getting used to the team. Michael Jordan didn't automatically make the Wizards the best team in the NBA when he started playing for them.
Absolutley horrible example.. Basketball already is an established sport in the US with a huge following.. It wasnt like Jordan went to England when he was at the end of his career to establish the sport.. No, he just went to an awful franchise..

And I do believe MLS wants to see results rather quickly.. Why else for the huge fanfare that no one but soccer fans know? They were trying to create a buzz.. And now that buzz is dying.. And now the NFL is back and thats all Americans of a larger percentage care about..
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Old August 10th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #19
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Chap, I think you're wrong on this one. Becks is at the end of his career, and I doubt he has 5 good years left in him. I think LA needs impact out of him within the first few years, and this season is wasting away.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 07:02 AM   #20
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Beckham played last night for the last 15-20 minutes. The Galaxy looked better with Beckham in and down a man than they did without him and at full strength. Beckham wasn't running around like crazy, but he was spot on with most of his kicks.

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Old August 10th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #21
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Chap, I think you're wrong on this one. Becks is at the end of his career, and I doubt he has 5 good years left in him. I think LA needs impact out of him within the first few years, and this season is wasting away.
Disagree. I think this exposure he's getting is making fans watching the games think he's a washed up has-been. And I certainly don't think he is. Sure, he's not as young as he used to be, but he's got 5 years left in him. In that respect, Zidane is ancient, but he was great in the Cup last year.

LA does need impact out of him, and if you watched yesterday, they got it. He was directing the team and sending some great passes. He had a free kick that was decent, and a very pretty lead pass to Donovan, probably the pass of the game. He wasn't moving too great, but that's to be expected, considering it had just rained. And they guy DOES feel bad for the fans that pay so much money to see him and he sits on the bench, so he is taking a chance going out there.

The guy is a passer, and that's where he's going to help the most. Again, if you watched the game, you'd know what I mean. The Galaxy are AWFUL at passing the ball. If the MLS wants to get respectable and be compared to something like the EPL, then they have a long way to go. Beckham is just an early step to get high-quality players in the league.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 08:22 AM   #22
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Disagree. I think this exposure he's getting is making fans watching the games think he's a washed up has-been. And I certainly don't think he is. Sure, he's not as young as he used to be, but he's got 5 years left in him. In that respect, Zidane is ancient, but he was great in the Cup last year.

LA does need impact out of him, and if you watched yesterday, they got it. He was directing the team and sending some great passes. He had a free kick that was decent, and a very pretty lead pass to Donovan, probably the pass of the game. He wasn't moving too great, but that's to be expected, considering it had just rained. And they guy DOES feel bad for the fans that pay so much money to see him and he sits on the bench, so he is taking a chance going out there.

The guy is a passer, and that's where he's going to help the most. Again, if you watched the game, you'd know what I mean. The Galaxy are AWFUL at passing the ball. If the MLS wants to get respectable and be compared to something like the EPL, then they have a long way to go. Beckham is just an early step to get high-quality players in the league.
Agree. He was directing the players. He also grimaced in response to the Galaxy keeper made an error and kicked the ball back to D.C United. Looked like Galaxy should have had a couple goals as a result of Beckham. I heard a commentator say that since Beckham is not a striker-type he should be able to keep playing a long time.

D.C.'s crowd was crazy. That place looked and it was pouring down raining.
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Agree. He was directing the players. He also grimaced in response to the Galaxy keeper made an error and kicked the ball back to D.C United. Looked like Galaxy should have had a couple goals as a result of Beckham. I heard a commentator say that since Beckham is not a striker-type he should be able to keep playing a long time.

D.C.'s crowd was crazy. That place looked and it was pouring down raining.
Did you see the Toronto game last week? The stadium and crowd there was unreal. The DC crowd was tame compared to them.
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Did you see the Toronto game last week? The stadium and crowd there was unreal. The DC crowd was tame compared to them.
I love it. One of the reasons I started watching soccer/football.
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And I think Beckham is a lot less of a "superstar" type than people think. He seems pretty down to earth all things considered.
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Was it me or was that pitch in D.C. looking terrible with seams and bumps everywhere?
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I still disagree, Chap. He'll help for a year or two, I think, but that's about it. He might stick around more, but he'll be a nonfactor at that point. It's not about his age compared to other old players. It's about how much he's slowed down, how much his game has been reduced. He's a good leader and a good free-kicker. He'll do well for a year or two because the speed of the MLS is slower than in the other major leagues, but eventually even that won't be enough. He's simply too old, for him, to keep up for five more years.
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I still disagree, Chap. He'll help for a year or two, I think, but that's about it. He might stick around more, but he'll be a nonfactor at that point. It's not about his age compared to other old players. It's about how much he's slowed down, how much his game has been reduced. He's a good leader and a good free-kicker. He'll do well for a year or two because the speed of the MLS is slower than in the other major leagues, but eventually even that won't be enough. He's simply too old, for him, to keep up for five more years.
Well, I never thought I'd change your mind. You seem to me to be a European league fan, not an MLS fan. Which is ok, I just disagree because the age factor isn't as huge a factor in soccer as it is in some of the other sports. Like I said, Zidane was ancient and yet was still one of the top 3 players on the France squad, which is pretty good in its own right.
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Jesus Christ..he played last night already.
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I still disagree, Chap. He'll help for a year or two, I think, but that's about it. He might stick around more, but he'll be a nonfactor at that point. It's not about his age compared to other old players. It's about how much he's slowed down, how much his game has been reduced. He's a good leader and a good free-kicker. He'll do well for a year or two because the speed of the MLS is slower than in the other major leagues, but eventually even that won't be enough. He's simply too old, for him, to keep up for five more years.
Actually most players that come over from leagues in Europe say the pace is faster in MLS and often more physical. Where the problem lies is in technical ability and skill. People can say what they want about the American players but nobody ever questions their fitness or athleticism.

I'm not a huge MLS fan because the passing is terrible and finishing laughable but things are improving.

Beckhams game has NEVER been about speed. Its always been about his passing, confidence on the ball and free kicks. His skill has diminished but he's only 32 yrs old, he's got at least 3 solid years ahead of him especially in the MLS. The only concern I have for him is the lack of skill in MLS is evident in the hacking, clumsy tackles we see and it could cause him an injury.

Blanco is in a similar situation, his lack of speed is more than made up for with his superior skill on the ball. He is making the entire Chicago team look better and he is 2 yrs older than Beckham.
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