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Anybody still think Floyd Landis is an innocent victim?
For those that missed it Landis is having a hearing right now over the accuracy of the french lab tests that found he used steroids during the TDF last year. His team spent days attacking French lab assistants and then yesterday Greg LeMond was asked to come and testify. LeMond has had his runins over the years with Lance Armstrong so it was assumed by the Landis camp he was there to trash Landis who is friends with Lance.
So LeMond starts talking and blows the doors off everyone by revealing that as a 6 year old he'd been sexually molested. Why was he disclosing it? Because the night before someone from the Landis camp had called him and
essentially threatened to out his secret if he spoke at the hearing the next day. The caller apparently said I'm your uncle (the one who apparently had molested him) and then went into some detail before basically saying this can all come out tomorrow and hanging up. Lemond called him back and got the voicemail of Landis' manager. He eventually got the guy who denied he'd made the call.
During the hearing, the manager admitted he'd made the call, and he was subsequently fired by Landis' attorney. Why does this make Landis the bad guy? Because the only person in Landis' camp that knew about LeMonds past was... Floyd Landis.
After Floyd tested positive, LeMond had pulled him aside and told him if you are guilty, I urge you to come clean, don't fight this if you did it, don't try to hide a deep secret it will eat you up. He then told Landis the story of having been molested as an example of a deep secret.
So while Landis himself didn't make the call, he clearly was the source of his manager knowing the story.
Landis' team tried to undo the damage by hammering on LeMond about Lance armstrong, but Greg refused to talk about Lance saying he came here today to discuss the Landis case, not Lance Armstrong. Landis' team attacked that saying it was not fair that he refused to talk about LA. Their beef was simple, they wanted to show he had a bias by saying he accused LA of cheating, and now he accuses Floyd of it.
I almost don't care if he cheated or not now, what a despicable person to take a piece of information that was told to him in confidence, and use it to try and threaten LeMond.
And how dumb is the manager to make the call from a phone that's not blocked so LeMond couldn't call him back?
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I stopped believing Landis after I saw his piece on Real Sports with Bryant Gummbel. You could clearly tell that he was lying, he looked like a pathetic 12 year old. No doubt in my mind that he doped. However, cycling as a long way to go to clean up their mess
I stopped believing Landis after I saw his piece on Real Sports with Bryant Gummbel. You could clearly tell that he was lying, he looked like a pathetic 12 year old. No doubt in my mind that he doped. However, cycling as a long way to go to clean up their mess
I never did believe him because I think basically everyone in cycling is doping and has been for ages.
But that's so low. He's trying to act like hey I fired the guy, I didn't make the call don't blame me but who told the manager that story, you did, so you're a despicable person.
I don't think Landis is innocent, but I don't think anybody else is either. Cycling has been filled with doping like baseball. The riders know it, but nobody talks about it.
Do you know who finished second in the 2006 Tour de France? Oscar Periero. He's faced with his own doping scandal.
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Cycling: Tour de France runner-up denies doping charge
The Associated Press
Friday, January 19, 2007
Oscar Pereiro, the Tour de France runner-up, has denied doping allegations, saying he will send French authorities documentation of his waiver to take an asthma medication during last year's race and then wait for someone to "apologize" to him.
Pereiro was responding to a report Thursday in Le Monde that Pereiro had twice tested positive for salbutamol during the race. It also said the International Cycling Union had granted him a waiver for the asthma medication and was not pursuing sanctions against him.
French anti-doping officials, however, said they were not convinced the waiver was medically justified.
"Tomorrow morning — Friday — I'll send a fax with the paperwork requested by the French anti-doping agency and then a certified letter, and once this is cleared up I'll wait for whoever needs to, to apologize to me," Pereiro said.
Pereiro, from Spain, spoke at a hastily convened news conference in the northwestern town of Vigo, accompanied by his personal allergy adviser, Dr. Luis Arenas.
"Deep down I'm calm," Pereiro said.
Pereiro could inherit the Tour title if Floyd Landis is stripped of the crown. A doping test showed that Landis had elevated ratios of testosterone to epitestosterone. If Landis's appeal fails, he could be banned from cycling for two years.
Calls to the president of the French anti-doping agency, Pierre Bordry, were not immediately returned, but he was quoted on the Web site of the French sports daily L'Équipe.
"He won't answer us, even though we've told him that he is required to do so," Bordry said of Pereiro. "It seems Pereiro has lost track of the doctor who filled out his forms. Pereiro must prove his innocence. The fact he is unwilling to do so, at this moment, is inadmissible."
Pereiro said he had been cleared by the cycling union to use Ventolin, an inhaler prescribed to ease asthma.
Arenas said Pereiro suffered from "light to moderate" asthma, a "very common illness."
"With the dose recommended in his case, and in the manner it has been prescribed to him, it's impossible that it could have given a positive reading," Arenas said. "Oscar has a sensitivity in his bronchioles which is greater than that of the average of the population, and that causes him to have to take medication if he presents symptoms that might justify it."
To update, the former manager, the one who tried to blackmail LeMond, has now entered rehab(not kidding)! Landis has admitted that he was in the room with the manager when he made the calls to LeMond. And I read a story this morning that says in November on a cycling website Landis posted a very clear threat to LeMond that if he didn't stop talking about the Landis case "I will make public some very revealing information regarding him." So it's pretty clear where the manager got the idea, directly from Floyd Landis.
It sounds like they might wipe out LeMond's testimony entirely because some of it's hearsay. One of Landis' lawyers is claiming he made very similar claims regarding Lance Armstrong and then later recanted them, LeMond says he never recanted anything.
Big story in my local paper this morning about how Landis' entire plan is backfiring. He demanded the hearing be public because he thought it was going to lead to a sympathy vote for him because he mistakenly assumed people would support him they way they did Armstrong. But he's come off so poorly in the hearing that it's now backfiring to the point that the writer said at least one person involved in the case claims Landis' lawyers are considering asking they bar the public now.
Have you read the stories lately how several of the Telekom/T-Mobiile riders have admitted doping, including 1996 Tour winner Riis?
Cycling is going to turn into what baseball has turned into. Riis admits, as does Dietz, Zabel, and Aldag. Further, two German doctors have admitted giving drugs to the T-Mobile team.
Watched the Riis press conference. Talk about being cool.
He clearly stated that he cheated by taking drugs. It was wrong and he is embarrassed now, but he only acting within the enviroment of the sport at that moment.
While he clearly hinted that mostly everyone did it, he refused to name other riders eventhough the press pressed hard for it (mainly Ullrich, since he was Ullrich's mentor).
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every winner since the early 90's has doped. SO why does Landis get special attention? PErhaps because its a french sport dominated by americans?
Never saw this much attention with non american winners.
WTF???
You don't know what your taking about...
1. You live in American and therefore YOU only hear about the Americans. The Americans gets equal if not less attention in Europe.
2. Americans DO NOT dominate the sport. Lance Armstrong has won the biggest tour on the circuit 7 times in a row. Apart from that Americans haven't done much
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