Shane H

ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Krangthebrain

Best post on the thread.

Denver fans will quickly realize that Jake has trouble making routine plays...

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Fiasco

When your points are Pittman and a only three game tapes of Plummer in action what do you expect?

cardzfan

What Taco John failed to point out in his selective statistics is that teams know all they have to do is put 8 men in the box and stuff the run to beat a Plummer lead offense. Beat the stuffing out of Portis because you DO NOT have to respect Plummer. Put it ALL on Plummer and he fails. Thats what Taco Johns stats show us. I am glad we cleared this up.

traveler49

I've printed out your post. After game one at Cincinnati, when you haven't scored in the first half and the Bengals are the "surprise" half time leaders, I'll send your post back. Enjoy Beurlein, he's your baby.

spanky

Taco John,

You lost all credibility when you talked about Blake's inability to beat out Ferotte and/or Kitna.............

I'll have my "bookie' get ahold of yours and will lay down a bet for $100 that AZ ends up with a better record than your Broncos.......OK?

Don't get too far in love with "the better talent you have" to surround Jake with.............he's PROVEN to a lot of people that he can f**k up any team pretty quickly.

Your CFO likely hasn't yet gotten off the floor after signing the $7MM bonus check..........Plummer hasn't stopped laughing yet.

And seriously, Plummer can't throw a spiral downfield......he has a pathetic arm..............and he is TRUELY DUMB.

Crimson Warrior

all right thats it taco. I was reading through the thread from the beginning and you had a least a marginal amount of respect until you said that.

we appreciate your input and I'm sorry that your team sucks. ok?

now bye bye

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Crimson Warrior

there you go ryan. tell it like it is.

taco,

I do not have a particular dislike for jake. But plummer was our favorite teams starting qb for 5 or 6 years straight (nobody will deny plummers durability), and the average cardinal fan has a lot of emotion invested in him.

a lot good fans (including me) defended plummer for the better part of his six year tenure. but the bottom line is that he failed us, and now you are here telling us that we made a mistake by giving up on him. That is the LAST thing that we want to hear.

of course we are going to say that jake sucks. its the only thing that lets us sleep at night. But, there is also a mountain of losses, bad statistics and personal, first hand observations of bad plays on the part of jake.

I wanted so badly for jake to succeed in arizona. and he gave it 110%. (nobody will deny his will to win). But game after game after game he would make bad... no, horrible plays. Sometimes jake did snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. but too many times the jaws of defeat feasted on the cardinals because of jake.

I'm not saying your "superior" rushing game wont help. But unless you can limit jake to about 10 throws a game (i.e. rush for about 275 per game) then you guys will not be playing football in january. I'm sorry man, thats just the way it is.

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Russ Smith

That's sort of like saying Elizabeth Berkley's not such a bad actress if you discount the whole Showgirls thing.

The 2 plays in the San Diego game that caused them to win and us to lose were 2 balls Jake threw that got picked. One was admittedly a good play by Wiley, most DE's aren't good enough to do that, but again, jake never looked away he threw right where he was looking, and Wiley did what he did because they'd seen that on film.

The second play was just vintage brain lock, stare right where you want to throw it, with Edwards standing right there, and not see Edwards?

You take those 2 plays away, even if Jake gets sacked instead, and we PROBABLY win that game. You can't just subtract out the bad plays and say aside from that he played well, it's those bad plays the contributed to so many losses over the years.

In other words, if Brian Griese were our QB last year in that game, we would have won because he would not have made those mistakes. Neither play was the result of being under big pressure, or trying to make the big play, both balls were simply a guy throwing to a spot he never looked off and then being surprised there was a defender there.

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Krangthebrain

He Russ, don't listen to DCCardsfan....remember, according to him, everyone on this board is a worthless homer.


And Jake singlehandedly lost the SD game. It is ridiculous to even try and say otherwise. 14 points off of Jake Plummer TOs.

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AZCB34

Another peculiar thing is he went over to BroncosFreak and tore apart Russ for arguing the Jake thing over there (as well as on other boards) but Taco John showing up is a direct result of DCCards being proactive and going elsewhere to pump up Jake...and offering to mail out game tapes.

Hmmm, not sure what that is I smell...hypocrisy?

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Krangthebrain

IMO, the only worthless homers are the ones who can't realize that Jake was part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Even Jake fans like Tango, understood that Plummer was part of the problem.

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ajcardfan

Generally, people who are getting their butts kicked don't like to see the score!

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DCCardsFan

There's no hypocrisy here. I didn't know about broncosfreak.com until Russ had over 100 posts over there. How is what I'm doing different from Russ (besides the fact that I was being generous, and Russ was just being spiteful)?

I DID go over to orangemane.com and offer up those tapes.

So what? I never hid that fact, and I'm sure Russ knew about it before Taco John posted that fact here.

I only did it in furtherance of knowledge. Those guys over there are arguing Griese v. Plummer to death, even though they've never seen Plummer play. It's as stupid as talking about how great Boldin and Pace are going to be without ever seeing them play.

My personal belief is that Plummer will do very well in Denver. I have tapes, which I don't want anymore, and I sent them over there. It was an idea I had to test out the generosity and honesty of message-boarders, as well as get some good feedback from relatively unbiased observers (diehard Cards fans are far from unbiased).

Why are you people such freakin Nazis? Are you TRYING to discourage every reasonable person from being a Cardinals' fan?

Krangthebrain

Nice generalization.

And nice choice of words....you couldn't pick a term that is a little less offensive?

To call all of us worthless homers, turned me against you. I used to enjoy your posts, but you went completely overboard with those comments. You haven't apologized and admitted that you were wrong, so I don't feel bad at all for letting everyone know what you said at ever opportunity.

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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.