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Originally posted by en fuego If Griese's decision making made you crazy -- just wait.
Griese always struck me as one of those steady-Eddie types who never made the spectacular play, executed the run of the mill plays, and limited the disasters.
Plummer will make plenty of spectacular, but wont consistenly do the little things, and will definately produce the disaster. Jake is the leader of the "unforced error"-- particularly in the red zone.
The interception that he threw during the 01-02 season in Dallas to Dexter Coakley was classic Plummer.
Down in our own endzone, Plummer drops back to pass, not that much pressure. Jake looks around, no receiver is open, and he inexplicably throws the ball right down the middle, directly to Dexter Coakley who trots into the endzone.
Taco John: I've gotta' say we all thank the Denver Broncos, and hope everything doesn't turn out as bad as we think it will.
And I hope that Shanny doesn't have to hard of a time finding a new job.
Adios
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I saw every game Jake ever played, the Taco has seen 3.....he is not an elite quarterback. He has a weak arm, does not read defenses and ruins the running game.
This argument is really pointless.....the Cardinals fans are not sour on Jake, most of us like him (as a person) so why don't you take our word on it.
Originally posted by SECTION 11 Nice job Fredo, I mean DCCardsFan.
I'm smart! Not like everybody says... that I'm dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!
There's no backstabbing going on here. Last season was a horrible season. I don't want any record of it, so I sent my original tapes to people who could use them. Just like I taped over all my tapes from 2000.
I tried a "pay it forward" thing. It failed miserably. As far as I can tell, not a soul forwarded it on. They all said that no one emailed them asking for the tapes. Terrible fans, if you ask me - with something like 200 posts a day, there aren't FIVE PEOPLE over there who wanted to check out tape of their new QB in May.
All I can say is that if anyone came in here offering free tapes of Jeff Blake from last year with free shipping, with the caveat that you post a critique within a week and pass it on, I think a lot of people would jump on it. I know I would like to get a chance to really watch him and break down the tape, now that he's our guy.
I sent out all the tapes of the first nine games - actually, the guy who liked Plummer the best got the San Diego and Philly games, I believe. I know this is heresy, but besides the two devastating INTs, he played pretty well in the SD game. And we WERE one-dimensional.
Liking Plummer around here is like not agreeing with the Iraq invasion. Those who disagree will say you're not on the right team. Whatever. I have nothing to hide. I'll watch every Cards game this year just like every other year, and I'll try to be one of the voices of reason.
Last edited by DCCardsFan; July 30th, 2003 at 07:20 PM.
I hope he does. I just don't want the guy on my team.
He will success heheheh, and I will give virgin birth to a QB that will take the Cardinals to the superbowl.
That is great buddy you and the rest of the arrogance surrounding the Broncos keep telling yourself that. It will make you feel better about the fact you know he stinks.
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Originally posted by DCCardsFan I tried a "pay it forward" thing. It failed miserably. As far as I can tell, not a soul forwarded it on.
Probably because they were embarassed.
Seriously, it was a very sporting thing for you to do. But, if they honestly critiqued them, they were probably a little nervous about what could happen for them this season.
And, I know, I'm not going to change your mind on Jake. Wouldn't even try.
I knew that "pay it forward" thing wouldn't take off... That doesn't mean that people didn't appreciate the gesture. I like to put the games on in the back ground while I'm working...
From what I've seen, Jake makes his fair share of mistakes... But the talent level around him isn't exactly inspiring... Jake played his ass off that second Seattle game, only to have his teammates invent new and interesting ways to screw things up all game long...
Originally posted by Taco John I knew that "pay it forward" thing wouldn't take off... That doesn't mean that people didn't appreciate the gesture. I like to put the games on in the back ground while I'm working...
From what I've seen, Jake makes his fair share of mistakes... But the talent level around him isn't exactly inspiring... Jake played his ass off that second Seattle game, only to have his teammates invent new and interesting ways to screw things up all game long...
Have you seen clips of the "pass" a behind the back, no look pass to Marcell Shipp? Face it, Jake could **** up a cup of coffee
I'm tired of the Plummer posts and news. Lets just see how he does when he has to do it. I hope he does well but could care less how is doing in camp. Heck he always looked good in camp.
Maybe it's sour grapes but I don't want to see him do well. I put a lot of faith in the kid and he let me down. Period.
Question: when Jake throws behind Sharpe on a crossing route or skips a ball to Leile on a quick out will it be the "surrounding talent's fault?" That's what the Denver fans don't understand, it was when the pass protection was holdig up and he was counted on to make the routine throws when he was at his worst. I'm tired of hearing the Cards blamed for Jakes failures. All his talk about giving him a good running game is tantamount to "well, if he never has to throw the ball, he'll never lose the game for us."
I just watched the Laura Croft thingy and it reminded me of that Jake Plummer behind the back pass fiasco...
First of all the movie was awful... so that got me to thinking of awful things and that naturally turned to memories of Cardinal doom... what worse things are there?
Then since the movie sucked I began to muse over what type of guy would dump that woman and thats when utterly inexplicable bone headed things came to mind and presto.. I remembered the whole fleasnicker incident.......
Enjoy maybe you and shanny can tell war stories during your night shift at the Bell.
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