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Originally posted by bratwurst Its pretty accurate to the Linebackers and Safeties that he never actually sees, but seems to stare and aim at very effectively.
I have certainly questioned Jake's decisionmaking over the years, as I have questioned his deep ball. He makes some bonehead plays.
But the criticisms don't end there, brat. They go much farther, into the zone of lies. And that's when I step in to argue.
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Originally posted by SECTION 11 Yes. He is not very accurate.
Most NFL QB's don't spin their RB around on screen passes.
Most NFL QB's hit receivers in stride across the middle.
Most NFL QB's hit receivers on out routes in the numbers, toward the sideline.
Maybe you're version of accuracy is shown in March at the QB Challenge?
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Originally posted by SECTION 11 Yes. He is not very accurate.
Most NFL QB's don't spin their RB around on screen passes.
Most NFL QB's hit receivers in stride across the middle.
Most NFL QB's hit receivers on out routes in the numbers, toward the sideline.
Argue with me, Fredo!
There's a zone of lies right there!
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Originally posted by DCCardsFan I have certainly questioned Jake's decisionmaking over the years, as I have questioned his deep ball. He makes some bonehead plays.
But the criticisms don't end there, brat. They go much farther, into the zone of lies. And that's when I step in to argue.
I'll explain why I think Jake is inaccurate, and it's not just his completion %.
I've said it before the difference between the NFL and college is huge, in college it's not uncommon to have guys 5 or even more yards behind the defense because so many college games are total mismatches where a team like Miami has guys on their 3rd string that would star on the other team. IN college the QB is not required to be able to get the ball into tight spaces, if he can that's great, but most college QB's don't have to make "tough" throws consistently. That's how a guy like Ken Dorsey goes 38-2 and then lasts until round 7 because he was always throwing to wide open WR's.
In the NFL the "window" is much smaller, there is the occasional breakdown but usually you don't get too many instances where your WR is so open that there's nobody near him. To be a really GOOD NFL QB you have to be able to make throws in tight spaces. And you have to be able to put the ball in the right place so that if your guy can't catch it, nobody else can.
My belief on Jake is the reason his % is low, and his INT's are high, is he can't do that. So he tries to put the ball through the small window but its late, or low, or high or left or right, and it gets deflected or picked. That's why he has so many INT's, that's why has so many "almost" INT's, and that's why his % is lower.
The counter is his % is low because he's under pressure, his WR's aren't open, so he's throwing balls away. Problem is if he did that, he wouldn't have all the INT's. The only way that you can get both the low % and the picks, if you're NOT throwing the ball into the safe spot.
There's no question he's been in bad situations, and if he starts 16 games this year he probably will break his career highs for % and TD's, but I think you have to judge it based on what would other guys do with that same talent? I suspect most really good NFL Qb's would be able to go 20 TD 10 INT in Denver rather easily with that talent, I don't see Jake doing that.
Originally posted by Brian in Mesa I have faith in Jake Plummer.
I believe he will perform in Denver about the same that he performed in Arizona. I think Denver will have less patience than Arizona did. I don't see Denver waiting 6 years hoping the guy can learn to better read NFL defenses.
jake gets two years to stink it up in denver.
If he plays poorly enough they might kick him to the curb after just one. they won't tolerate a loser in denver.
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