The 2007-08 Los Angeles Lakers thread - Page 56

Renz · February 27th, 2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by abomb

OMG. This is awesome;

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...t&lid=tab1pos2

LOL! That was cool.

abomb · February 27th, 2008, 07:54 PM

Good to see the Suns crap the bed. Sucks that it was against NO.

Darth Llama · February 27th, 2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by abomb

Good to see the Suns crap the bed. Sucks that it was against NO.

Yeah, I had mixed feelings on that as well. They didn't really help us or hurt us, I believe it just moves them into 2nd in place of the Spurs. I can't believe how tight this race is, one loss can push you from 1st to 5th. Talk about tense.

It does at least put us further out ahead of the Pacific.

abomb · February 27th, 2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Llama

Yeah, I had mixed feelings on that as well. They didn't really help us or hurt us, I believe it just moves them into 2nd in place of the Spurs. I can't believe how tight this race is, one loss can push you from 1st to 5th. Talk about tense.

It does at least put us further out ahead of the Pacific.

Shaq played 31 minutes on the ass-end of a b2b!

PringlesMan will have the Diesel in the shop in no time.

Donald · February 27th, 2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by abomb

Shaq played 31 minutes on the ass-end of a b2b!

PringlesMan will have the Diesel in the shop in no time.

You are KIDDING me!

Good Lord, Pringles...do you have Shaq in a death pool or something?

They could use Shaq in the playoffs...Pringles is hell bent on ensuring he isn't there. He played him late in the Pistons blowout..got 33 minutes in that game which was over in the third...he's just not a good coach.

Donald · February 27th, 2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by abomb

Good to see the Suns crap the bed. Sucks that it was against NO.

Eh, the Nooch will drop more games. Right now, I'm concerned about keeping hold of the Pacific. 1st overall seed would be nice, but we've now got an effective 2.5 game cushion when you factor in the tiebreaker.

Make sure we keep the division and we have a top 3 seed; then we worry about the first overall.

Donald · February 27th, 2008, 10:00 PM

abomb · February 28th, 2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald

You are KIDDING me!

Good Lord, Pringles...do you have Shaq in a death pool or something?

They could use Shaq in the playoffs...Pringles is hell bent on ensuring he isn't there. He played him late in the Pistons blowout..got 33 minutes in that game which was over in the third...he's just not a good coach.

Upon furter analysis, here is Shaq's info this season;

Code:

	MPG	PPG	RPG	DNP
MIA	28.7	14.2	7.82	14
PHX	28.8	13.5	8.34	5

Pre-Shaq	109 PPG		34-14
Post-Shaq	109 PPG		5-5

Darth Llama · February 28th, 2008, 08:48 AM

I can't believe the minutes they are putting on Shaq. Just another example of why D'Antoni is probably the worst coach in the NBA. Every off season, I pray that they don't fire that guy, I love having him in charge of one of our division rivals. At this rate, Shaq will be on IR by round 1.

Donald · February 28th, 2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by abomb

Upon furter analysis, here is Shaq's info this season;

Code:

	MPG	PPG	RPG	DNP
MIA	28.7	14.2	7.82	14
PHX	28.8	13.5	8.34	5

Pre-Shaq	109 PPG		34-14
Post-Shaq	109 PPG		5-5

Actually, the Suns haven't played that many games WITH Shaq...he was on the team but didn't play for a few games.

I broke down the actual numbers without him in the lineup and with him in the lineup. Prior to Shaq's first game the Suns averaged 109.9 PPG, and allowed 104.1 PPG. In Shaq's 6 games with the Suns so far, they are averaging 105 PPG and allowing a whopping 111.2 PPG.

Now, that's an AWFULLY small number of games to base any statistical relevance on at this point, and they had quality opponents during that stretch, but it will be interesting to see how that bears out. If the trend continues, it isn't good for the Suns and the number that should be concerning is the 7 points per game worse defensively. You expect some offensive problems integrating a true center into a system that never had one, but the defense should NOT be regressing. Not when that's a reason you brought the guy in.

abomb · February 28th, 2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald

Actually, the Suns haven't played that many games WITH Shaq...he was on the team but didn't play for a few games.

I broke down the actual numbers without him in the lineup and with him in the lineup. Prior to Shaq's first game the Suns averaged 109.9 PPG, and allowed 104.1 PPG. In Shaq's 6 games with the Suns so far, they are averaging 105 PPG and allowing a whopping 111.2 PPG.

Yeah, I debated doing it that way too and will for future analysis. The way I did it, it factors in the loss of Marion/Banks. The PAA is sick.

dreamcastrocks · February 28th, 2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald

You are KIDDING me!

Good Lord, Pringles...do you have Shaq in a death pool or something?

They could use Shaq in the playoffs...Pringles is hell bent on ensuring he isn't there. He played him late in the Pistons blowout..got 33 minutes in that game which was over in the third...he's just not a good coach.

Now that part I agree with. With 10 minutes in the 4th Q, ALL of my starters would be out of the game.

dreamcastrocks · February 28th, 2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald

Actually, the Suns haven't played that many games WITH Shaq...he was on the team but didn't play for a few games.

I broke down the actual numbers without him in the lineup and with him in the lineup. Prior to Shaq's first game the Suns averaged 109.9 PPG, and allowed 104.1 PPG. In Shaq's 6 games with the Suns so far, they are averaging 105 PPG and allowing a whopping 111.2 PPG.

Now, that's an AWFULLY small number of games to base any statistical relevance on at this point, and they had quality opponents during that stretch, but it will be interesting to see how that bears out. If the trend continues, it isn't good for the Suns and the number that should be concerning is the 7 points per game worse defensively. You expect some offensive problems integrating a true center into a system that never had one, but the defense should NOT be regressing. Not when that's a reason you brought the guy in.

When you consider the 70 something they held Boston to, it's pretty scary.

Darth Llama · February 28th, 2008, 08:43 PM

And now.. a rant:

I don't know why people always say there are a lot of Laker fans in Phoenix. It's a load of crap. In 18 years living in Arizona, I don't know another Laker fan. All the crappy radio "personalities" here bash Laker fans and talk about how stupid we are and how none of us know anything about basketball. Everyone on the Sports Radio station (KTAR) is a jerk off that knows nothing outside the realm of their own homeristic tendencies toward the all mighty Suns. The funny thing is, the Arizona Cardinals get the exact opposite treatment even though they are a home town team as well.

Most people in Phoenix aren't smart enough to realize that Phoenix is mostly made up of people from other places, hence there will be people here that like other teams. It can be frustrating though, living here and having to hear all the time that you're an idiot because you like the Lakers. I honestly think at this point that Suns fans are dropping below Cowboy and Bears fans on my list of most classless fans in the world. On that note..

Go Lakers!

Brian in Mesa · February 28th, 2008, 09:33 PM

Walton behind the back to Odom for the dunk!

Looks like Luke is waking up.