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it was said on the radio, it was reported in a few articles here in miami. i just showed you a google result, which already supports what i said. it doesn't say snaq 'asked for a buyout'. it says snaq strong-armed the heat for a buyout. the details on HOW he strong-armed the HEAT were made public. you want details and at the same time attack me and say i am lying, when i already proved most of it with the first link? go find it yourself, i just spent time out of my day to write about it and provide the initial links, and you are still calling me a liar?
run along now, child. i dont talk with children or morons.
I didn't call you anything, I said your "proof" didn't back your story. This post right here proves you're full of **** and shows you have a pattern of expanding on the facts. "Heard it on the radio".. you got nothin' but an overdramatised sense of reality.
Oh, and the Miami Heat suck! But it's all Shaqs fault right?
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Snaq has carefully cultivated his image through the media over the years, so that his happy-go-lucky, "gentle giant" persona is all anyone remembers.
Am I the only one who remembers Snaq demanding a trade after the 2004 Finals because he didn't want to play for another coach when Phil wasn't retained? Snaq forced his way out of L.A., but it all still somehow got dumped in Kobe's lap.
Most people remember it as a power play by Kobe because they don't like him, not because it really happened that way.
and why wasn't Phil retained? Oh yeah, because Kobe wanted it that way. Come on Renz. Everything started and ended with Kobe's decision to opt-out. That move strong-armed everything the Lakers did there. Either you cow-towed to what he wanted (hated Phil and Shaq at that point) or he was gone.
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and why wasn't Phil retained? Oh yeah, because Kobe wanted it that way. Come on Renz. Everything started and ended with Kobe's decision to opt-out. That move strong-armed everything the Lakers did there. Either you cow-towed to what he wanted (hated Phil and Shaq at that point) or he was gone.
It is also well chronicled that Phil was burned out and Jerry Buss wasn't willing to pay him the money it would have taken to retain him.
But if you want to blame the whole breakup on Kobe, while giving Shaq, Phil and Buss a pass, go ahead.
and why wasn't Phil retained? Oh yeah, because Kobe wanted it that way. Come on Renz. Everything started and ended with Kobe's decision to opt-out. That move strong-armed everything the Lakers did there. Either you cow-towed to what he wanted (hated Phil and Shaq at that point) or he was gone.
Both are wrong.
It was a little bit of each of them...Buss included. Phil's machinations, Kobe's opt-out and Shaq's monetary demands all combined for one hell of a storm.
It was a little bit of each of them...Buss included. Phil's machinations, Kobe's opt-out and Shaq's monetary demands all combined for one hell of a storm.
eh, I can go with that, although I think the seeds were set when Kobe wouldn't sign the extension. Both Shaq and Kobe are babies of LEGENDARY proportions, not to mention self-entitlement freaks, which is why they're probably as talented as the superstars of the 80's/early 90's, but nowhere near as embraced, although Shaq is probably more so only because he's got that whole "gentle-giant" thing going on and he's been in movies like KAZAAM! You just can't hate a guy who's been a genie that much.
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It was a little bit of each of them...Buss included. Phil's machinations, Kobe's opt-out and Shaq's monetary demands all combined for one hell of a storm.
That was my point. Plenty of culpability to go around.
eh, I can go with that, although I think the seeds were set when Kobe wouldn't sign the extension. Both Shaq and Kobe are babies of LEGENDARY proportions, not to mention self-entitlement freaks, which is why they're probably as talented as the superstars of the 80's/early 90's, but nowhere near as embraced, although Shaq is probably more so only because he's got that whole "gentle-giant" thing going on and he's been in movies like KAZAAM! You just can't hate a guy who's been a genie that much.
and can I just say that Snaq is just the lamest nickname of all time. I mean come on guys, call him Shaqueef or something good if you're gonna call him names. Snaq is just lame.
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and can I just say that Snaq is just the lamest nickname of all time. I mean come on guys, call him Shaqueef or something good if you're gonna call him names. Snaq is just lame.
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