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Originally posted by FischerKing And I say that they would start Brett because he's got the experience and he's a proven commodity. He's got the wins, the records and the rings to back up his performance on the field. He's got the intangibles in that he's a great leader on the field and he breeds confidence in his team mates. He makes any team and any individual on his team (offensive) better just by being on the field and playing with them.
He may not be the best QB in the history of the league - but he's pretty high on the list, and in terms of QB's currently playing - I'd take him over any of them to start and lead my team - no questions asked.
Shawn
And everyone of those QB's mentioned are proved, have the experience, gots the wins,
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Who the hell called him a "hack". I said he was a first ballot Hall of Famer. But if your contention is he is as good as he was 5 years ago then thats crapola, if that were the case he wouldn't be contemplating retirement.
Originally posted by HookemCards Who the hell called him a "hack". I said he was a first ballot Hall of Famer. But if your contention is he is as good as he was 5 years ago then thats crapola, if that were the case he wouldn't be contemplating retirement.
He has lost a little in the past 5 years like speed and mobility, but he hasn't lost the velocity, accuracy and touch of being to get it to his receivers. Brett was never a great scrambler anyway - even though he may have thought he was.
Shawn
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Originally posted by Krangthebrain That's BS, Shawn.
If you are talking realistically, FJ could start for most teams in the league. I'm not saying he would start over Franks, but for most teams he would.
I actually think Jones has been a better TE than Franks. Franks is overrated. He has a future hall of fame QB throwing to him, and his stats are deceiving. He gets a lot of TD passes, but they are usually 1 yard misdirection plays where Favre rolls one way and Franks runs the other way. Most teams would pound it in with the RB, but the Pack usually tosses it to Franks on misdirection plays. Franks doesn't have the speed to split the seam either, and he doesn't run well after the catch. Franks is a better blocker than Freddie though.
Packers have had a solid TE since Mark "American Chewie" Chmura was in town, and before that was Ed West. Packers used to rely on the TE alot to catch them passes in the middle and it was fairly effective.
And you're right Houdini - Bubba is a better blocker, I just wish he wasn't so slow running and had a better set of hands.
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Originally posted by FischerKing He has lost a little in the past 5 years like speed and mobility, but he hasn't lost the velocity, accuracy and touch of being to get it to his receivers. Brett was never a great scrambler anyway - even though he may have thought he was.
Shawn
I read an article about Favre that surprised me recently. In it, he said he wished he could go back in time and QB the game he lost the Super Bowl to Denver. He said the Favre today could have beaten Denver then, because he is a better QB today than he was back then. The Packers had a better team then, but he said he is a better QB now than he was then because he can read and react so much better now than he did back then. That surprised me because he definately doesn't run as much as he did then, but his canon is as good as ever.
Originally posted by Houdini I read an article about Favre that surprised me recently. In it, he said he wished he could go back in time and QB the game he lost the Super Bowl to Denver. He said the Favre today could have beaten Denver then, because he is a better QB today than he was back then. The Packers had a better team then, but he said he is a better QB now than he was then because he can read and react so much better now than he did back then. That surprised me because he definately doesn't run as much as he did then, but his canon is as good as ever.
I think by "reacting" he's probably talking about reacting to defenses - how to attack them, spotting the secondary receivers, etc.
Even though the Packers lost that game to Denver, I still think it's the best Super Bowl I've ever watched - it was such a fun game, all the way down to the end.
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Originally posted by FischerKing I think by "reacting" he's probably talking about reacting to defenses - how to attack them, spotting the secondary receivers, etc.
Even though the Packers lost that game to Denver, I still think it's the best Super Bowl I've ever watched - it was such a fun game, all the way down to the end.
Shawn
I agree. Ticks me off though when I see the highlights of that game and I see Freeman fumble a kickoff in the 4th quarter and then on the final drive of the game Freeman dropped a pass on 1st or 2nd down I think it was right down the middle on a bullet from Favre that would have given the Pack a 1st down around the 15 or 20 I think.
Gotta give Denver credit for blitzing Favre on the 4th down call though that went incomplete to Chumura. Most teams do that prevent defense crap and end up losing. Denver threw the kitchen sink at Favre.
I think the Packers came into the game over confident. They were something like 14 point favorites, and the first drive of the game they go like 80 yards for a TD and made it look easy. After that it was a struggle and a great game to watch by both teams. Elway actually didn't play that great, but Terrel Davis had such a big game that surprised me.
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