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Pittmann would have been the better choice...talent wise.
Now I have to say I totally agree with Shane.
Your eye for talent is WAY off.
Shipp is quite a bit better than Pittman.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by NEM Antowain Smith is in the best shape of his career, Kevin Faulk is an explosive back, and the addition of Larry Centers was a steal...also Antwan Womack is ready to play......
JR Redmond, IMO, has gotten a bad deal from the Pats, and I still believe he is very talented...
I would take all of the above over Shipp, any time, any where....
Shipp averages under 2 yards a carry, most of the time, and his numbers got inflated with ONE long run in many games..and he cant hold onto the ball and goes down easily....
Pittmann would have been the better choice...talent wise.
Not comparing Shipp to Barry Sanders but Sanders did the same thing. Short runs all day then he would pop one or two real long ones.
I disagree that Pittman is better than Shipp. Shipp ran for over 2000 yards during a season in college...no matter what level, there has to be talent there.
The rest of your post is pretty good. I was infdifferent about signing Emmitt but the more I think about it the more against it I am but nothing I can do about it. He better have a good season.
Welcome back NEM.
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Originally posted by NEM Shipp averages under 2 yards a carry, most of the time, and his numbers got inflated with ONE long run in many games..and he cant hold onto the ball and goes down easily....
Pittmann would have been the better choice...talent wise.
You are entitled to your opinion but I think your facts a little messed up. Shipp does have a problem holding onto the ball but as far as long runs are concerned. Here are some stats I took his game log and deleted games where he had a run over 25 yards.
Week 2 @SEA W 24-13 8 39 4.9 17
Week 7 DAL W 9-6 (OT) 11 33 3.0 14
Week 8 @SF L 38-28 6 27 4.5 13
Week 9 STL L 27-14 3 15 5.0 11
Week 10 SEA L 27-6 16 85 5.3 16
Week 14 DET W 23-20 25 85 3.4 16
Week 15 @STL L 30-28 26 79 3.0 10
Week 17 @DEN L 37-7 17 58 3.4 12
Not too shabby.
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I knew he had to be wrong about that, because Shipp's trademark, is that he consistently gets positive yardage.
NEM: The Patriots do have a deep runningback corps, but if Antwoin doesn't come through, it could be a long season in Foxboro.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
You could say that about almost any team. If Ricky Williams doesnt come through for the Dolphins...long season, etc.
I believe the thing that will keep the Pats in contention, all season long, is their depth at most positions....RB, WR and the great acquisitions they made on defense, COLVIN (remember him?), Rodney Harrison and the draft pick of Ty Warren to line up with Colvin and Richard Seymour.
Even with superstars, if you dont have the backups, and the depth, you can kiss your season goodbye.
This is where Bill Belichick has excelled, in recognizing the need for quality depth...and where, I believe teams like the Cardinals have failed.....
BTW, good info on Shipp's numbers, but I still believe you think too much of him.
Oh I think Belichick is an excellent coach, and the way the Pats have stockpiled picks will enable the team to be good for years.
Trading down was very astute, and the talent level is sure to increase for the Pats over the next few years.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Yeah Belichick is a solid coach, and I wasn't that sure about him in the beginning. Their big problem, IMO, is Charlie Weis, the OC, who I believe is vastly over rated. No excuse for him this year though, as they have added depth, and a lot of talent in the offensive positions.
Depth is the key. And one of the negatives with the Cardinals, is the lack of depth, at most key positions.
If Emmitt goes down, I have little faith in Shipp.
And, if Blake goes down, what the hell will this team do at QB? They should have picked up an experienced backup, as well.
The O line, while a pretty good one, is thin, and Davis, IMO, should be moved...and I dont know why they dont do it? They have talked about it, but just dont pull the trigger and move him to where he can do the most for this team at LT.
Originally posted by NEM You could say that about almost any team. If Ricky Williams doesnt come through for the Dolphins...long season, etc.
I believe the thing that will keep the Pats in contention, all season long, is their depth at most positions....RB, WR and the great acquisitions they made on defense, COLVIN (remember him?), Rodney Harrison and the draft pick of Ty Warren to line up with Colvin and Richard Seymour.
Even with superstars, if you dont have the backups, and the depth, you can kiss your season goodbye.
This is where Bill Belichick has excelled, in recognizing the need for quality depth...and where, I believe teams like the Cardinals have failed.....
BTW, good info on Shipp's numbers, but I still believe you think too much of him.
Colvin was a huge pickup for you guys...obviously. He will add another dimension to a defense that is IMO one of the better run defenses in the league.
I am still not a Brady fan and I personally think that is where the Pats weakness is...but he has had success. Again, AFC East looks like a tough division. All indications are the Bills improved themselves alot and Miami is pretty good although their HC sucks and I question Fiedler.
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Originally posted by AZCB34 Colvin was a huge pickup for you guys...obviously. He will add another dimension to a defense that is IMO one of the better run defenses in the league.
I am still not a Brady fan and I personally think that is where the Pats weakness is...but he has had success. Again, AFC East looks like a tough division. All indications are the Bills improved themselves alot and Miami is pretty good although their HC sucks and I question Fiedler.
Brady is a tremendously SMART QB, he led the AFC in TD passes last year with only 14 ints.
His problem was he had no deep threats, now they do....and he has strengthened his arm immensely, winning the long throw in the NFL QB Challenge, (although I really dont put much stock into that)
He is a sold QB and now has another year's experience under his belt..and with the offensive line getting better and better, i think he can be pro bowl material.
It's a tough division...very tough....and I hate that they open up with two ont he road, Buffalo and Philly....
Cant wait till next season, (2004) Pats play here, in Arizona. I guess we will have to fill SDS, AGAIN, with about 25,000 Pats fans, A SEA OF BLUE, they called it last time.
Originally posted by NEM Yeah Belichick is a solid coach, and I wasn't that sure about him in the beginning. Their big problem, IMO, is Charlie Weis, the OC, who I believe is vastly over rated. No excuse for him this year though, as they have added depth, and a lot of talent in the offensive positions.
Depth is the key. And one of the negatives with the Cardinals, is the lack of depth, at most key positions.
If Emmitt goes down, I have little faith in Shipp.
And, if Blake goes down, what the hell will this team do at QB? They should have picked up an experienced backup, as well.
The O line, while a pretty good one, is thin, and Davis, IMO, should be moved...and I dont know why they dont do it? They have talked about it, but just dont pull the trigger and move him to where he can do the most for this team at LT.
I have to say that I disagree almost completely.
This Cards team, while not that talented, does boast pretty good depth at most positions.
RB, Wr, OL, DL, and LB all have better depth than any other point in time since the team arrived in Arizona. But the quality of the starters might be lacking.
Qb, as you pointed out, is a major concern, no doubt. McCown has looked much better in camp, but I think he still needs another year. He has tremendous talent, but he is still way too green to be a starter at Qb.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by Krangthebrain This Cards team, while not that talented, does boast pretty good depth at most positions.
RB, Wr, OL, DL, and LB all have better depth than any other point in time since the team arrived in Arizona. But the quality of the starters might be lacking.
Qb, as you pointed out, is a major concern, no doubt. McCown has looked much better in camp, but I think he still needs another year. He has tremendous talent, but he is still way too green to be a starter at Qb.
But isn't that the point? If you lack talent and you run your "first" team - which would be most of the leagues "second" team - you're going to get beat more often than not.
Shawn
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Originally posted by FischerKing But isn't that the point? If you lack talent and you run your "first" team - which would be most of the leagues "second" team - you're going to get beat more often than not.
Shawn
The talent on the first team is getting much better though.
And as you noticed last year with your Packers, having weak second and third stringers kills a team. You have to have good backups too.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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