49erTroll

Your absolutley right. 100%

With them we were decent and we beat yall twice and havent lost any body and considering first round gaurds have the highest turnover rate Im feeling pretty confident.

Mulli

So, based on the high turner rate, the new first round guard will likely be replaced after a year or two?

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49erTroll

I didnt personally insult you bro. I gave an oversimplified but accurate assement of us vs. you.

But if you feel that a 9 year is below you than please dont feel like you have to respond

nashman

Since Leinart and Smith have neither had great success in the NFL so far we could look further back and make the case Leinart has a MUCH greater chance of being the real deal than Smith, but for now we can just wait and see. And without question we have better looking cheerleaders than the Niners, I didn't even know they had girls in SF haha!

cardsfanmd

If you want to call them that.

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49erTroll

First I have to say I love talking to fans like you.

Your right, I didnt know that about beanie and let me just say that IMO beanie is fast and elusive and it appears Hightower(awesome name) is your "pound the rock" guy. And YES when they come together like a power ranger esque super running back their better. But the thread is not best duo's or best running team its best players position by position. So yes, you do have the edge of Hightower, Wells v. Coffee,Gore.

Second point, I think if you thought about how hard it is to be a 3-4 DT then you might revise that statment. Good DTs are paid higher and more coveted than good gaurds because If a gaurd flails initially, he has two guy directly on either side of him to help. If a DT fails, the entire D is in trouble. I think D. williams will be a good player personally and I think he should have gone much much earlier. But If hes not good then the LBS have got to be that much better. We gave Franklin our franchise tag for this very reason...when was the last time you heard a G getting a tag?

49erTroll

funny

LVCARDFREAK

I dont buy most of what this troll is saying. The Cards DL and Secondary are much better than the niners across the board, and the coaching comparison is laughable. Ill take Singletary if I need someone to fire up the sales troops at the office, but not so much for strategy and X and O's.

But he is right about one thing. Gore alone is better than the Cards RB's combined. It sint that Wells and Hightower arent good (In fact Wells should be a 1200 yard rusher this year if healthy and we committ to the run like i think we will) but Gore is a frickin beast.

5 yards a carry
52 receptions
1500 combined yards
13 TD's

Gore is better. Hands down.

cardsfanmd

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dreamcastrocks

G?

He is a tackle. You do realize that guards play on the offensive side of the football, right? Oh, and tackles are franchised nearly every year.

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49erTroll

Im a firm believer in history....hmmm I should quit now then

RugbyMuffin

Ah!

I get you. So if we want to talk stats on paper then sure, Davis and Clark are great tight ends.

But in reality tight ends are 1/2 WR and 1/2 OL. So, for 50% of what you need at tight end Clark and Davis are tops in the league.

If you are talking about a TE that does it all, include throwing the best sealing block I have seen in the NFL Health Miller reigns over the NFL like a man amongst boys.

Thus lies the difference. Davis throws blocks like he is stepping on ice. And I am a Cardinals fan, I know all about poor blocking from the tight end position.

If you ask Ozzie Newsome and Todd Christianson, blocking doesn't matter, it won't get you money, and it won't get you in the Hall. But, it makes a WORLD of difference when it comes to wins and loses.

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john h

Forget all this stuff and look at who won the division the last two seasons. Until you finish better than us then stay back in the corner. We are still the Man of the West until someone else can prove it on the field and not on paper.

Krangthebrain

To throw my opinion on this topic out there again:

We've basically become optimistic about this team; Coach Whisenhunt and his staff have taught us that if they say something like "This player is going to be a stud" it's usually going to be true.

The team no longer is looking to only fill today's needs, it now looks to fill tommorrow's needs (O'Brien Schofield, John Skelton, and to a lesser extent Andre Roberts). The team is proactive now and gets players that would've been a luxury in other years (Alan Faneca, Bryan Robinson). They look to build quality depth and competition at every position (Derek Anderson, Rex Hadnot, Faneca) that there is uncertainty.

I don't see this approach with the Niners IMO. Where is the player to challenge Alex Smith? Sure David Carr could be considered that but Singletary has said that Smith is the unquestioned starter and it doesn't look like it's a competition. Also, the Niners didn't even try to address the offensive line with veterans, which would be more effective right away.

I would not rate Iupati as a top 30 player in the draft; only Steve Hutchinson types are top 30 players and Iupati isn't even close to as good as Hutch was coming out. He was not the best available player, nor the best available talent at a position of need. He was strictly a luxury pick and an overreaction. At the moment our signee Rex Hadnot is a better player and he was had quite cheaply, and he was one of the better starting guards in the NFL last year. All it would've taken was signing him and then using that pick on a player.

Despite what you think or may hope 49esTroll, Nate Clements was terrible the past two seasons, and has been one of the worst cornerbacks in the NFL. Notice I didn't say one of the worst STARTING cornerbacks, since many nickelbacks have outperformed him. Addressing cornerback at 17 would've allowed the 49ers to drastically improve the depth at the position and bumped Clements out of the starting lineup and allowed Clements to focus on ONLY covering big receivers. But Singletary's obsession with "smashmouth" 1980's Bears football (which is antiquated in today's NFL) lead to this IMO, terrible pick.

Also, look at the cap economics of paying FOUR first round offensive lineman....it's just a terrible waste of draft capital and shows no trust nor creativity. Look at many of the olines across the league and you will see that most of the good teams have quite a few late round guys starting; it's just not a value position and paying for FOUR 1st round linemen is going to come back and haunt the 9ers down the road (like I said earlier shortsightedness and the inability to develop players).

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