Welcome to ASFN Fan Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
I think we are stuck with Shelton. So keep him and do this: trade down in the first round and get another third.
1. CB Justin Miller
2. RB JJ Arrington
3. CB Antonio Perkins
3. TE Kevin Everett
3. WR Roscoe Parrish
4. OG Chris Kemoutu
5. DT Albert Means
7. OG Scott Young
We elimate our holes at CB, TE, RB, OL, and speedy fourth receiver. Any other holes would be filled after June 1st cuts.
We won't get Henry, and so he'll sit out half the season, do absolutely nothing for the Bills, and then bail next year and be a great RB somewhere else. The GM for the Bills has to know that by trading Henry, at least they get SOMETHING in return. After this whole fiasco, I can't see Henry suddenly showing up to camp or even the first few games for the Bills.
With LJ, I'm guessing he gets traded for something on draft day. If not, who cares, it's one extra O-lineman, which ain't bad.
I'll be shocked if the Henry trade occurs. If it does, I think we'll know due to the amount of time it takes us to make our first pick, as well as who we pick.
__________________
"When I see guys huddling up after the game, to pray, that's what scares me about the game. I'm a Baptist, but I'm also a quarterback killer, and I ain't praying with you. But I will give you 30 seconds to ask your Lord and master to keep me from killing you." -- Hall of Fame defensive end "Deacon" Jones on what aspect of the modern game most upsets him.
What this suggests to me is that there's probably a lot of other info about Henry, Shelton and other possible trade discussions with other teams that are happening behind the scenes.
If we ever find out at all, we'll know after a deal is done and certainly after the draft.
The way we're being jerked around info-wise, if it turned out we wound up with Edgerrin James instead of Henry, I wouldn't be shocked.
__________________
"EVERY "NEXT GAME" IS A "MUST GAME."
Later (GBR/RIP40)
honestly guys - think about this for a second. Edge and Alexander - arguably two of the 5 best running backs in the NFL are apparently slotted at a 2nd round value. Based on that - you think Shelton is worth the same - that he is in the class of Edge and Alexander in worth? Or even Surtain?
Give me a break - Shelton for Surtain is ludicrous from the Dolphins standpoint.
It's all about supply and demand...Quality RB's are more pleantiful, at this time, than quality LT's.
__________________ “I'm going to go out Monday through Friday and work hard and try to help this team win, because God knows we need a win,”Anquan Boldin.
This is from ESPN Insider, today...Now the Bucs are in on Henry.
Apr. 15 - In the market for a top-level running back, Buccaneers GM Bruce Allen told the St. Petersburg Times he has spoken to the Bills about the possibility of acquiring Travis Henry. If the two sides agree to a trade, it likely won't be until next week, speculates the newspaper.
The Cardinals have been the favorites to land Henry, but the long-rumored deal that would send Henry to Arizona for offensive tackle L.J. Shelton appears to be on hold. Buffalo would like to swap picks in the second round, taking the Cardinals' pick (No. 44) for the 55th selection, but Arizona coach Dennis Green prefers a straight-up player-for-player swap.
__________________ “I'm going to go out Monday through Friday and work hard and try to help this team win, because God knows we need a win,”Anquan Boldin.
It's all about supply and demand...Quality RB's are more pleantiful, at this time, than quality LT's.
Really? Who's available? Alexander and James will be playing for Seattle and Indy respectively this year. I suppose you could sign Anthony Thomas and call him elite...
It seems that demand has gone up recently (TB and PHI).
Really? Who's available? Alexander and James will be playing for Seattle and Indy respectively this year. I suppose you could sign Anthony Thomas and call him elite...
It seems that demand has gone up recently (TB and PHI).
Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
Alexander and James are available in the trade market, as is Henry. A-train is available, but is obviously on the next level down from Henry (who is a level down from Alexander and James). That's off the tops of our heads.
Now tell me what LT are available? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Btw, rumor has it that Tom Donahoe has generated all the talk concerning Philly and Tampa Bay. But you know what? I'd be cool with Henry going to TB, because that would free up the chance that a young back falls to us. Good luck!
__________________
Veni, vidi, vici--this goes out to all our NFC West chums
Thank you for breaking the circle of suck, Bidwill--Stout, December 7 2008.
honestly guys - think about this for a second. Edge and Alexander - arguably two of the 5 best running backs in the NFL are apparently slotted at a 2nd round value. Based on that - you think Shelton is worth the same - that he is in the class of Edge and Alexander in worth? Or even Surtain?
Give me a break - Shelton for Surtain is ludicrous from the Dolphins standpoint.
The only problem there is that both Edge and Alexander want new contracts which is dramatically lowering their trade value, as does Surtain. LJ already has a new contract and we've not heard anything that suggests he's looking to upgrade.
No question those 3 players are better than LJ but their trade value is artificially low because of their contract demands.
you guys wanna know why? it's b/c like a few of us have been saying from the start, obviously the league doesn't consider shelton the equivalent of a 2nd, or perhaps even a 3rd round pick. so the bills don't want just him. and denny has stated over and over again that he doesn't want to trade away any picks, so we won't offer the 3rd.
The problem with this concept is according to the draft value chart a switch of positions from 44 to 55 is 110 points, 110 points is basically the #98 pick or a 3rd round pick. So basically Buffalo wants a 3rd round pick AND SHELTON FOR NOTHING, because if you swap picks and they would trade Henry for a 3rd, then Shelton has NO VALUE according to this concept.
So this means 1 of two things, either buffalo would not take just a third rounder for Henry (the more likely scenario) regardless of the inference of the above quote, or Buffalo places no actual value on Shelton, and if so then lets just make this trade:
Buffalo trades Henry and the #55 pick
Arizona trades the #44 pick
Noone actually give up a pick so Arizona is happy, Buffalo gets for all intents and purposes a 3rd round pick based on the move up value, and we keep LJ Shelton moving Ross to gaurd and fix our o-line issue!
__________________
Be afraid of "THEM" because only "THEY" know who "THEM" are!
Btw, rumor has it that Tom Donahoe has generated all the talk concerning Philly and Tampa Bay. But you know what? I'd be cool with Henry going to TB, because that would free up the chance that a young back falls to us. Good luck!
Maybe, maybe not. The fact is that both of these clubs expressed interest in Henry months ago. Then, for a while, it looked like the Shelton/Henry deal was going to go down. Now that the Arizona deal is not so certain, and with draft day approaching, is it so far of a stretch that these clubs would once again express interest in obtaining a starting-calibur RB?
TD may be working the media a bit, but that doesn't mean Arizona is the only team interested in trading for Henry.
With contract demands and age taken into account, I see no better FA running back available than Travis.
Again, why is it so hard to imagine other teams wanting Travis Henry?
It's not, but that article said they were concerned with his contract demands and the Cards have already made it clear they won't extend him until he proves last year wasn't a fluke. Henry has a past he has to overcome, he has to prove that giving him a nice new deal won't come back to haunt a team, that's why his trade value is lower than his perceived ability as a player.
Shelton is better than any LT Buffalo will get in round 2, but at his age with his history with injuries apparently nobody will trade a #2 for him, same basic premise, they're looking beyond 2005 season.
Linear Mode
