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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:00 PM   #1
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Packers | Couch Agrees to One-year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:39:20 -0700

FoxSportsNet's Jay Glazer reports the Green Bay Packers have agreed to terms with free agent QB Tim Couch (Browns) on a one-year, $1.25 million deal. The deal also includes incentives. While he hasn't officially signed the deal yet, he is expected to join the team in the next 48 to 72 hours.

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Damn, thats not very much. While I would have paid that for him to be our backup, I think it would have created too much of a QB controversy. Just too high profile.

He's better than King, but not a good fit.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:05 PM   #2
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This goes back to the other thread about Couch. So many of you are convinced that most NFL types think Couch is a much better option than King. Except the NFL "market" values them pretty similarly.

Couch: 1 year, $1.25M
King: 2 years, $2.2M (or per year at $1.1M cap charge)

Couch is a never has been, and continues to ride his first round status for continued chances. He'll never see the field behind Favre this year and won't attract much attention next year either. Bad move for Couch. He should have gone to Denver were he might get a few starts. (I wonder if he had any other legit offers?)

He'll join classmates Akili Smith and Cade McNown in retirement soon enough.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:20 PM   #3
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This goes back to the other thread about Couch. So many of you are convinced that most NFL types think Couch is a much better option than King. Except the NFL "market" values them pretty similarly.

Couch: 1 year, $1.25M
King: 2 years, $2.2M (or per year at $1.1M cap charge)

Couch is a never has been, and continues to ride his first round status for continued chances. He'll never see the field behind Favre this year and won't attract much attention next year either. Bad move for Couch. He should have gone to Denver were he might get a few starts. (I wonder if he had any other legit offers?)

He'll join classmates Akili Smith and Cade McNown in retirement soon enough.
Again he is not better then King. King lead his team to an NFC final and lost on a bad refs call. King never demanded he be given the starters job. And King never cried like a baby when things didn't go his way.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:26 PM   #4
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Again he is not better then King. King lead his team to an NFC final and lost on a bad refs call.
will you stop spouting this garbage - let me ask you this - How many points did King "lead" is team to against the Rams in that game - I believe it was SIX - couldn't even lead the team to a freaking TD - and how many points did he "lead" them to the week before against the Redskins - I believe it was FOURTEEN - whoop-dee-do - the man "lead" his team to TWO tds in the playoffs - I mean wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that King played on a team LED by one of the Best defenses of all time? Isn't that more of what happened?

Couch is garbage also - although, who knows - plenty of other QBs have resurrected their careers later - time will tiell - but if that does happen - I'll be surprised - was never a big fan of his out of Kentucky.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:31 PM   #5
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will you stop spouting this garbage - let me ask you this - How many points did King "lead" is team to against the Rams in that game - I believe it was SIX - couldn't even lead the team to a freaking TD - and how many points did he "lead" them to the week before against the Redskins - I believe it was FOURTEEN - whoop-dee-do - the man "lead" his team to TWO tds in the playoffs - I mean wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that King played on a team LED by one of the Best defenses of all time? Isn't that more of what happened?

Couch is garbage also - although, who knows - plenty of other QBs have resurrected their careers later - time will tiell - but if that does happen - I'll be surprised - was never a big fan of his out of Kentucky.
Look at the stats provided by This Guy on King I am not saying King is great just better then Couch. Yeah QBs take time to develop so Couch might develop but the same applies to King he is only 26 iirc. BTW Couch is a freaking crybaby so I wouldn't put any money on him developing. King maybe.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:36 PM   #6
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Look at the stats provided by This Guy on King I am not saying King is great just better then Couch. Yeah QBs take time to develop so Couch might develop but the same applies to King he is only 26 iirc. BTW Couch is a freaking crybaby so I wouldn't put any money on him developing. King maybe.
that's not my issue - I as much said that Couch was garbage -- I just think you're statement "King led . . . " is ridiculously misleading - and to tell the truth - if the guy is going to play for the Packers in order to learn under Brett Favre - oh there it is - it's Packer hate that's clouding your mind - that's actually understandable - because I'd rather see what Denny could do with Couch than King - but considering we have our starter that don't matter to me.
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that's not my issue - I as much said that Couch was garbage -- I just think you're statement "King led . . . " is ridiculously misleading - and to tell the truth - if the guy is going to play for the Packers in order to learn under Brett Favre - oh there it is - it's Packer hate that's clouding your mind - that's actually understandable - because I'd rather see what Denny could do with Couch than King - but considering we have our starter that don't matter to me.
Dude look at the context of my post I was referring to a post by someone who said Couch was better then King. King as QB led his team to an NFC final that is a fact. BTW he will learn nothing from Favre because the man is a selfish moron.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:40 PM   #8
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BTW he will learn nothing from Favre because the man is a selfish moron.
I'm not a Favre follower but where did you get this idea from?
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Old June 14th, 2004, 05:44 PM   #9
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I'm not a Favre follower but where did you get this idea from?
Oh my God. He costs his team games by playing hurt and forcing ints.
Did you see the PHI game last year or the ATL game the year before or the 6 SIX! int game from a few years back. 2 years ago he had a 4 int game vs a lousy MIN defense and his coach had to say after Favre spent years in the nfl he needs to learn to throw the ball away WTF??

The greatest disgrace in NFL history: after his olinemen busted their butts all day to keep him from getting sacked Favre laid down and let his friend Strahan sack him to get him the all time sack record. SICKENING. You should have read what his o line said after that game.
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Oh my God. He costs his team games by playing hurt and forcing ints.
Did you see the PHI game last year or the ATL game the year before or the 6 SIX! int game from a few years back. 2 years ago he had a 4 int game vs a lousy MIN defense and his coach had to say after Favre spent years in the nfl he needs to learn to throw the ball away WTF??

The greatest disgrace in NFL history: after his olinemen busted their butts all day to keep him from getting sacked Favre laid down and let his friend Strahan sack him to get him the all time sack record. SICKENING. You should have read what his o line said after that game.

Yeah he laid out for that sack and he throws INT like crazy cause he relies on his arm way too much sometimes but I don't see why you have to call a guy a selfish moron when the guy just wants to win.
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Oh my God. He costs his team games by playing hurt and forcing ints.
Did you see the PHI game last year or the ATL game the year before or the 6 SIX! int game from a few years back. 2 years ago he had a 4 int game vs a lousy MIN defense and his coach had to say after Favre spent years in the nfl he needs to learn to throw the ball away WTF??

The greatest disgrace in NFL history: after his olinemen busted their butts all day to keep him from getting sacked Favre laid down and let his friend Strahan sack him to get him the all time sack record. SICKENING. You should have read what his o line said after that game.
Uh this pretty much DEFINES selfishness and being a moron.
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Uh this pretty much DEFINES selfishness and being a moron.

You quote yourself now? Whats next? I think your hatred for Favre since he is in your division is clouding your judgement IMO.
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I'm not a Favre follower but where did you get this idea from?
Not a knock against Farve but is is common knowledge up in GB country that Farve wants nothing to do with any of the younger QB's. Hasselback himself said it in an interview a while back, that he and Farve never even talked not even in practice, and Farve didnt teach him a single thing.

Farve just isnt a good qb to learn from, he wants nothing to do with helping out the young QB's behind him. I think that half of the vet QB's in the league are just like this.
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You quote yourself now? Whats next? I think your hatred for Favre since he is in your division is clouding your judgement IMO.
I have posted facts about Favre. I don't hate Favre. Favre has always been overrated he himself admitted in Esquire magazine that it was booze and drugs that won him the SB. Take away the booze and drug years and Favre is nothing special.
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Not a knock against Farve but is is common knowledge up in GB country that Farve wants nothing to do with any of the younger QB's. Hasselback himself said it in an interview a while back, that he and Farve never even talked not even in practice, and Farve didnt teach him a single thing.

Farve just isnt a good qb to learn from, he wants nothing to do with helping out the young QB's behind him. I think that half of the vet QB's in the league are just like this.
Another example of his selfishness. Thank you.
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