Your Religious Beliefs/denomination? - Page 2

EndZone · July 15th, 2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by KingofCards

I don't think Catholics are the same as Born-agains.

They believe that Jesus died on the Cross for our Salvation, that you must be baptised and born again in the Spirt. They may not call them selves "Born Again" but it is the same thing.

Brian in Mesa · July 15th, 2003, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by KingofCards
I don't think Catholics are the same as Born-agains.

They aren't.

I'm not saying there isn't the rare Catholic that is born again, but the vast majority are not.

A born again Christian would not pray to saints or adore Mary as the Catholics do.

Most people "become" Catholic because they are born into a Catholic family and are raised in it's dogma.

WizardOfAz · July 15th, 2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by andikrist
... to stand and fight for what you've been taught to believe in.

That's about the size of it......

Ryanwb · July 15th, 2003, 12:55 PM

Yeah Catholics believe in the Father, Son and Holy spirit. Born agains I believe think that God and Jesus were the same person.

EndZone · July 15th, 2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
Yeah Catholics believe in the Father, Son and Holy spirit. Born agains I believe think that God and Jesus were the same person.

Jesus was fully God but fully man. We also believe in the Trinity. Jesus is God's Son. "If you know me then you know my Father too"

Dback Jon · July 15th, 2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
Yeah Catholics believe in the Father, Son and Holy spirit. Born agains I believe think that God and Jesus were the same person.

All Catholics and Protestants believe in the Trinity. Mormons do not - they believe that each are distinct entities.

jf-08 · July 15th, 2003, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dback Jon
All Catholics and Protestants believe in the Trinity. Mormons do not - they believe that each are distinct entities.

and that eventually they will be the controller of their own planet. Elohim says it is so.

Ryanwb · July 15th, 2003, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Dback Jon
All Catholics and Protestants believe in the Trinity. Mormons do not - they believe that each are distinct entities.

The Mormon's also have a second Testiment from the early 1800's....they are freaky deaky people indeed.

justAndy · July 15th, 2003, 02:53 PM

athiest has the most votes! tied w/ others....
as to the mormons being freaky - granted, but only a little more so than anybody that believes any religion. Of course I am athiest - hence the perspective....

Ryanwb · July 15th, 2003, 02:56 PM

What do Scientologists believe? Short of reading L Ron Hubbards books, I can't really find any information about their beliefs

jf-08 · July 15th, 2003, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
What do Scientologists believe? Short of reading L Ron Hubbards books, I can't really find any information about their beliefs

Come on over to the shack on the SW Corner of Dobson and University and I'm sure the people in white will give you a wonderful orientation.

Dback Jon · July 15th, 2003, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by jkf296
Come on over to the shack on the SW Corner of Dobson and University and I'm sure the people in white will give you a wonderful orientation.

And if you sign over your assets, they may even let you leave.

Brian in Mesa · July 15th, 2003, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
What do Scientologists believe? Short of reading L Ron Hubbards books, I can't really find any information about their beliefs

They believe that all we ever need we have inside us. Very humanistic views.

Tom Cruise recently came out... err... spoke out about how he overcame a learning disability by reading Hubbard's ideas.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ent...&Headline=Here's+the+read+on+Tom+Cruise

HERE'S THE READ ON TOM CRUISE: Tom Cruise says he learned to overcome his learning disability through Scientology.

"When I was about 7, I had been labeled dyslexic," he tells People magazine. "I'd try to concentrate on what I was reading, then I'd get to the end of the page and have very little memory of anything I'd read. I would go blank, feel anxious, nervous, bored, frustrated, dumb."

After "Top Gun" came out in 1986, Cruise became a Scientologist and discovered the "Study Technology" the religion's founder, L. Ron Hubbard, developed in the 1960s.

"I realized I could absolutely learn anything that I wanted to learn," Cruise says.

Now 41, the actor is a founding board member of the Hollywood Education and Literacy Project, a nonprofit group that uses Hubbard's teaching techniques in a secular setting.

"I don't want people to go through what I went through," Cruise says. "I want kids to have the ability to read, to write, to understand what people are saying to them, to be able to solve life's problems."

KingofCards · July 15th, 2003, 05:49 PM

"Agnosticism is the position of believing that knowledge of the existence or non-existence of God is impossible. It is often put forth as a middle ground between theism and atheism. Understood this way, agnosticism is skepticism regarding all things theological.

The agnostic holds that human knowledge is limited to the natural world, that the mind is incapable of knowledge of the supernatural. Understood this way, an agnostic could also be a theist or an atheist. The former is called a fideist, one who believes in God purely on faith. The latter is sometimes accused by theists of having faith in the non-existence of God, but the accusation is absurd and the expression meaningless. The agnostic atheist simply finds no compelling reason to believe in God."

http://www.skepdic.com/agnosticism.html

I voted for agnostic. But could be considered atheist as well.

I am the agnostic atheist.

justAndy · July 16th, 2003, 07:47 AM

..."he" has his own business, man's business is man's, as the Buddhists say. All these power hungry fakes claiming god talks to them are full of it.

Re: now is the time

hooray!

I think Atheist and Agnostic are almost the same thing.

even if there is a god...