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Mulli · December 6th, 2007, 07:54 AM

Hey, mods can only move posts? So all my posts I thought were deleted are still alive somewhere?

Yippee!!

dreamcastrocks · December 6th, 2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jughead

Then why not create your own thread topic?

because it isn't always that easy/clear.

Mulli · December 6th, 2007, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

because it isn't always that easy/clear.

Creating threads is so easy a mulli can do it.

Jughead · December 6th, 2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulli

Hey, mods can only move posts? So all my posts I thought were deleted are still alive somewhere?

Yippee!!

Yes. It's in the Moderator Trash Can.

It has stains from some soda pop can and last weeks chili dog wrapper. But somewhere in there is yer post(s).

UncleChris · December 6th, 2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_Sanders

Let's discuss this:

When I first became moderator of this board, everything came with some sort of label. You weren't a Democrat, you were a Socialist or a Communist. Republican's were Fascists. Terms like Nazi, Christian Taliban, ect... were all used and eventually led to flame wars.

I generally feel this is a good policy because no one likes to be labeled. However, if the board prefers to let them back, we can discuss it.

I would suggest that as long as the shoe fits, then let it be worn..... i.e., if you have a rigid, intolerant, militant religious group, such as the Taliban, why would it be a sin to refer to a Christian group as "the Christian Taliban" if in fact the only real difference is the deity they worship.

Again... to refer to an individual as a Nazi or a Fascist is not acceptable... to label a group as such, when in fact they behave in the same way as a Nazis or Fascists is very different.

dreamcastrocks · December 6th, 2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulli

Creating threads is so easy a mulli can do it.

Using the above logic, I think that should have warranted a new thread.

Jughead · December 6th, 2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleChris

I would suggest that as long as the shoe fits, then let it be worn..... i.e., if you have a rigid, intolerant, militant religious group, such as the Taliban, why would it be a sin to refer to a Christian group as "the Christian Taliban" if in fact the only real difference is the deity they worship.

Again... to refer to an individual as a Nazi or a Fascist is not acceptable... to label a group as such, when in fact they behave in the same way as a Nazis or Fascists is very different.

The Taliban gave themselves their own name and distinct identity - something (good/bad) that is recognized around the world through governments and the media.

Unless another movement is generated that dubs themselves "the Christian Taliban" - then IMO you are adding a "descriptor" to give an opinionated judgment to get a reaction from certain readers.

Chris_Sanders · December 6th, 2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleChris

I would suggest that as long as the shoe fits, then let it be worn......

This was the arguement for calling Democrats Socialists, Communists, and assosciating them with Nazi's. Because the Democrats believe in social programs, they are clearly socialists...ect...

If we end up allowing the term American Taliban, it seems that every label will be on the table at that point.

wallyburger · December 6th, 2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jughead

Then why not create your own thread topic?

It seems to me that the argument is coming from sources who hardly, if ever, create their own thread topic., and that may be the problem. The poster, who takes the time to create a thread, sees his/her work go awry and that is frustration. The follow up is usually ticked off individuals and comes off as intentional deflection or deliberate sabotage of a thread. In the least they are not contributory, especially the one liner contributions.

wallyburger · December 6th, 2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulli

Creating threads is so easy a mulli can do it.

Good example of what happens.

82CardsGrad · December 6th, 2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wallyburger

Good example of what happens.

Shame on Mulli...

Mulli · December 6th, 2007, 08:58 AM

Jug asked why not create a new thread topic. Dcr said it is not always that easy. I said it was easy to just create a new thread topic.

dreamcastrocks · December 6th, 2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wallyburger

It seems to me that the argument is coming from sources who hardly, if ever, create their own thread topic., and that may be the problem. The poster, who takes the time to create a thread, sees his/her work go awry and that is frustration. The follow up is usually ticked off individuals and comes off as intentional deflection or deliberate sabotage of a thread. In the least they are not contributory, especially the one liner contributions.

Well, part of that is true. I don't create a lot of threads here. I honestly think that people need to lighten up and not take offense if a thread does get off topic. Creating a thread, and posting an article doesn't give the OP some sort of possession of a thread, IMO.

I understand wanting to keep a thread on topic, but it isn't the end of the world. Getting ticked off about topics that veer from the original post shouldn't be completely discouraged.

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Originally Posted by Mulli

Jug asked why not create a new thread topic. Dcr said it is not always that easy. I said it was easy to just create a new thread topic.

Now look what you did Mulli. Sheesh.

Donald · December 6th, 2007, 12:13 PM

I think people need to lighten up and not take P&R discussions so seriously in the first place. It's a freaking message board and nobody is going to change the world here.

Both going pit bull on another poster or taking personal affront to any challenge of an opinion are serious problems with the P&R board that keep me out of it for the most part. I am interested in the topics, but the overly important tone of the entire joint is a turnoff. There's no real way to set up rules that would force people to relax and not take everything so seriously, but if there was that would be my vote.

If everyone were either less uptight or attacking, this thread wouldn't even be needed. There's probably one person on this entire board (all of ASFN) that I genuinely disliked, and she was dealt with...but even then I did my best to laugh, not get all bent out of shape when she ranted and raved.

Jughead · December 6th, 2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Donald

.....There's probably one person on this entire board (all of ASFN) that I genuinely disliked, and she was dealt with...but even then I did my best to laugh, not get all bent out of shape when she ranted and raved.

Yeah Jenna was a little

*HuMoRaTtEmPt*