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Well I guess you can mark this down to pure stupidity on the gun owners part too.
The father, I'm still not completely sold on selling him down the river of blame here although yeah I can see what you guys are saying, it was dumb and thoughtless at least.
The guy owning the Uzi or in charge of it is completely stupid though because how does he know an 8 year old won't freak out and spray the crowd with bullets as he freaks out.
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It's not the NRA's fault. They stand for responsible gun ownership and use.
But most of all they stand for
Having any gun you want
Anybody should be able to have a gun
No restrictions on gun use [like giving 8 yr olds and Uzi]
Having guns anywhere and everywhere, inc bars
You might call that responsible and I'm sure they do, I sure don't.
You wouldn't give a car to an 8yr old to drive regardless of supervision, why would you give one a gun ? They were lucky that that everybody in the general area wasn't killed as well.
I simply do not buy the BS of the NRA being about responsible gun ownership. They are for gun ownership and talk about responsible as its PC to do so. Push comes to shove its the increased availability of guns they are all about.
Heck they are pushing for guns to be allowed in bars in AZ, think that is responsible ? Booze and guns in the same room, yeah that's a great idea.
I would think that if the NRA stands for responsible gun ownership and use they would issue a statement that could be found somewhere condemning this kind of totally irresponsibility use guns and their personal attempt to use their influence to prevent this type of incident from happening again.
It's not the NRA's fault. They stand for responsible gun ownership and use.
The NRA's mission is to represent and protect gun manufacturers, retailers and the gun trade in general. Promoting gun safety makes it less likely that manufacturers will be sued. Catering to gun enthusiast's concerns sells more guns. They will do absolutely nothing to restrict minors from shooting at these events because that experience helps to promote and sell guns. They probably wouldn't mind a Magnum in every crib (unloaded of coarse..... I assume).
Not really. The subject matter ( not Rivercard ) are cretinous idiots without a shred of common sense or useable genetics. The sheer lunacy of the whole incident and anyone involved is overwhelming and the ultimate outcome of this event is the only possibility that will prevent this from having a chance to repeat. No one besides the child deserves any sympathy. The harsher the reaction, the better IMU.
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Not really. The subject matter ( not Rivercard ) are cretinous idiots without a shred of common sense or useable genetics. The sheer lunacy of the whole incident and anyone involved is overwhelming and the ultimate outcome of this event is the only possibility that will prevent this from having a chance to repeat. No one besides the child deserves any sympathy. The harsher the reaction, the better IMU.
The guys son is dead.
I think that's as harsh a punishment as you can give already doled out by fate here.
A lot of times later on after this dies down, out of sheer guilt and despair they will kill themselves anyhow.
I don't see much point in adding to that now.
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Man would it suck to have your child die before you do!!! I know a few people have went through that on ASFN and it tears me apart just thinking what someone has to go through afterwards...
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An unarmed person is a subject. An armed person is a citizen.
No restrictions on gun use [like giving 8 yr olds and Uzi]
Having guns anywhere and everywhere, inc bars
You might call that responsible and I'm sure they do, I sure don't.
You wouldn't give a car to an 8yr old to drive regardless of supervision, why would you give one a gun ? They were lucky that that everybody in the general area wasn't killed as well.
I simply do not buy the BS of the NRA being about responsible gun ownership. They are for gun ownership and talk about responsible as its PC to do so. Push comes to shove its the increased availability of guns they are all about.
Heck they are pushing for guns to be allowed in bars in AZ, think that is responsible ? Booze and guns in the same room, yeah that's a great idea.
Regardless of what you think about the NRA, they had nothing to do with this. Nothing. Zero.
The NRA doesn't think the government should stand in the way of its citizens owning guns. They put the responsibility of gun ownership on the citizens, and that's where it is in this case.
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The NRA doesn't think the government should stand in the way of its citizens owning guns. They put the responsibility of gun ownership on the citizens, and that's where it is in this case.
Well the person harmed in this incident was neither a full citizen nor a gun owner. So where does he fall in your/the NRA's philosophy?
Are people contending that the NRA advocates that little kids get to use uzis?
Are you as outraged as I am that "people" in this thread are more angry with the NRA than they are with the father who somehow thought it might be cool to let his 8 year old shoot an Uzi??
Regardless of what you think about the NRA, they had nothing to do with this. Nothing. Zero.
The NRA doesn't think the government should stand in the way of its citizens owning guns. They put the responsibility of gun ownership on the citizens, and that's where it is in this case.
Agreed but they create the conditions for this to happen.
No doubt you would say that if the law were passed to allow CCW in places where booze is sold, then a drunk guy shooting somebody isn't their fault either ?
If we try to create legislation to control gun shows the NRA would go ballistic, hence yes they do share responsibility as the y fight any and every attempt to control this type of lunacy
Are you as outraged as I am that "people" in this thread are more angry with the NRA than they are with the father who somehow thought it might be cool to let his 8 year old shoot an Uzi??
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