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Old September 10th, 2003, 11:35 AM   #16
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Old September 10th, 2003, 11:38 AM   #17
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How about a second chance? Or is that beneath you?
Not without a legitimate and official review of the situation first, no.

I'm still waiting for an explanation.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 11:54 AM   #18
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Thank you.
Sorry, I was replying to Sean's idea of holding elections. You just posted seconds before me. LOL was not directed towards you.

I apologize for confusion.

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Old September 10th, 2003, 02:15 PM   #19
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You want an explanation?

I said several times, STOP Thread. Continuing to post here will get you banned.

You continued to post. I don't know if you thought I was kidding or you just had to get the last word. I don't care. I was a moderator for a major internet site for two years and when I say stop thread, that is what it means.

In fact, I said: Stop thread, continuing to post here will earn you a couple days away from this forum.

To which you responded with:

I'm going to post again to ask a question:

Are you threatening to suspend me because I effectively argued my case, without resorting to personal attacks?

My response:

No I am ending this thread because we are just going in circles.

I am not going to convince you of anything and you are failing to convince me. So we will drop it.

Is that crystal clear? Don't both responding because I will ban you from this board for doing so.

Your response:

Instead of threatening us, why not simply close the thread?

I would love to have the thread stand as is for all to see the facts.


You CLEARLY understood what I was saying and chose to ignore it. So you CLEARLY understand why I took the action I did. My plan was to suspend you for three days.



Now then, I never asked to be moderator of this forum. I was appointed to it. I wasn't given any sort of restrictions. My e-mail was simply "You have the power to ban people and start with whatchamacallit"


So if you think I am such a bad person to be moderator, ask yourself why you weren't selected. Ask yourself why I am still moderator.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 02:41 PM   #20
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You want an explanation?

I said several times, STOP Thread. Continuing to post here will get you banned.
So, while I didn't stop posting you banned me? That's your reason?

That's a rediculous overreaction.

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You continued to post. I don't know if you thought I was kidding or you just had to get the last word.
I didn't think you were kidding, I just couldn't understand why you would say such a thing. I also can't understand why you had to lace your posts with personal attacks.

You lost, you pissed and moaned and you threw a tantrum.


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I don't care. I was a moderator for a major internet site for two years and when I say stop thread, that is what it means.
I see. You were gestapo for another site and that gives you all the credence you need to ban someone for no good reason.

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In fact, I said: Stop thread, continuing to post here will earn you a couple days away from this forum.

To which you responded with:

I'm going to post again to ask a question:

Are you threatening to suspend me because I effectively argued my case, without resorting to personal attacks?
Which is and was a legitimate question, to which you didn't address. Care to now?

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No I am ending this thread because we are just going in circles.

I am not going to convince you of anything and you are failing to convince me. So we will drop it.

Is that crystal clear? Don't both responding because I will ban you from this board for doing so.

Your response:

Instead of threatening us, why not simply close the thread?
And why didn't you? Wouldn't that accomplish what you PURPORTED to want?

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You CLEARLY understood what I was saying and chose to ignore it. So you CLEARLY understand why I took the action I did. My plan was to suspend you for three days.
Is 3 days the standard time amount for not doing anything wrong?

If that's the case, you should ban yourself for several months.

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Now then, I never asked to be moderator of this forum. I was appointed to it. I wasn't given any sort of restrictions. My e-mail was simply "You have the power to ban people and start with whatchamacallit"
Were you forced to accept?

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So if you think I am such a bad person to be moderator, ask yourself why you weren't selected. Ask yourself why I am still moderator.
I think it is reasonable to suppose that the last part should be reviewed and possibly rectified. If the ownership chooses to keep you, despite your actions here today, that is entirely their right.

However, everyone has now seen how you will govern this board. There's no hiding it now. I sincerely hope you're not proud of it.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 02:46 PM   #21
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Old September 10th, 2003, 02:51 PM   #22
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The decision has already been made
I'll wait until I hear from the PTB.

But if it is true, then congratulations. You are the man.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 02:55 PM   #23
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And I didn't "lose and throw a tantrum"

I chose to end a thread that had degenerated into an arguement. Threads that are heading to an arguement really serve no purpose and do nothing to enhance the board.

I am still not going to argue with you further so I will drop this matter as I tried to earlier. If that makes you feel like you "won", then I am happy for you
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Old September 10th, 2003, 03:00 PM   #24
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Chris, I've already tried to talk to you in private about this, but that doesn't seem to be working.

Unclear about what kind of board you used to run, but the "PTB" put you on this board to make sure the trolls stay off and the personal attacks are at a minimum.

They didn't put you in charge of discussions and when they will end.

Other than looking out for trolls and attacks, you should think of yourself as just a normal person on the board. I mean, not even I would venture to close a discussion just because I felt it had run it's course....if you feel it's over, stop posting on it.

Again, sorry to bring this out here, but the PM's apparently aren't working.

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Old September 10th, 2003, 03:01 PM   #25
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And I didn't "lose and throw a tantrum"
Let's deconstruct.
You ignored perhaps a dozen requests by me to substantiate your baseless claims. You ignored the proof that I provided. I totally disproved the AWOL claim.

That's the lost part.

You called people names.
You banned me because I didn't adhere your command.

That's the tantrum part.

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I chose to end a thread that had degenerated into an arguement. Threads that are heading to an arguement really serve no purpose and do nothing to enhance the board.
But you didn't end the thread. You banned me.

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I am still not going to argue with you further so I will drop this matter as I tried to earlier. If that makes you feel like you "won", then I am happy for you
In this case, feel like and actuality are one and the same. But people won't have to take my word for it. They can see for themselves and come to the same conclusion. I have confidence in THAT.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 03:01 PM   #26
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Lastly,

After talking with Mike via PM about this (which we did this morning before I unbanned you), I did overreact based on what was expected of me as an admin. As I said, I was given no guidelines outside of keep things under control.

At the time I felt it was justified, but after speaking to Mike you are correct that I went too far. Please accept my apology on that account.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 03:03 PM   #27
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To be totally honest, I had no idea how to lock the thread...which is why I went with the stop thread method.

While you were busy giving all your "facts", I was trying to find the lock thread function. I found it after I banned you.
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Old September 10th, 2003, 03:04 PM   #28
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Lastly,

After talking with Mike via PM about this (which we did this morning before I unbanned you), I did overreact based on what was expected of me as an admin. As I said, I was given no guidelines outside of keep things under control.

At the time I felt it was justified, but after speaking to Mike you are correct that I went too far. Please accept my apology on that account.
Thanks Chris...I think we can all shake hands and drink a beer together now



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Old September 10th, 2003, 03:08 PM   #29
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