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View Poll Results: What is your take on executing Saddam?
I chose no way this should happen. Not only is it immoral to kill another human being, he will now be considered a martyr by those loyal to him.
They (loyalists) will be even more motivated and juiced up once this happens. It won't be a short term effect either, IMO. Even those who despised him (ex: Osama) will use this is a rallying point.
Last edited by Avondale Red Rage; December 29th, 2006 at 05:20 AM.
I was thinking that Saddam is being tried and executed for what he did under the "old rules" , yet is being punished by the new rules. Isn't that bypassing the "grandfather clause"?
If an impartial " world court " handed down this ruling, it would be somewhat expalinable, but this " new Democracy " in Iraq is not impartial. Justice is not blind, it is peeking.
Makes me think that the inevitability of escalation is being courted by Bushco with this event.
Very telling that the installers of freedom and Democracy are using Draconian sanctions to make their point.
Very precedent setting. Executing the enemy leaders. May come back to haunt some folks.
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I was thinking that Saddam is being tried and executed for what he did under the "old rules" , yet is being punished by the new rules. Isn't that bypassing the "grandfather clause"?
If an impartial " world court " handed down this ruling, it would be somewhat expalinable, but this " new Democracy " in Iraq is not impartial. Justice is not blind, it is peeking.
Makes me think that the inevitability of escalation is being courted by Bushco with this event.
Very telling that the installers of freedom and Democracy are using Draconian sanctions to make their point.
Very precedent setting. Executing the enemy leaders. May come back to haunt some folks.
Yeah, but at least that final link to 9-11 will be hung for his actions.
I couldn't quite find a category that matched my thoughts. I think it is probably a just result in light of the attrocities that he helped commit.
However, I feel that there are some overriding legal problems with the process and the legitimacy of the government that is imposing this lethal sanction. The U.S. has no right to be in Iraq and had no right to remove the previous Iraqui government. That puts all subsequent "legal" proceedings in question.
Only time will tell, but the execution may provide another rallying cry for the insurgents.
You're right there are no statute of limitations for mass murder.
Of course Saddam was only recently overthrown and captured on the basis of his terrorist connections and holding WMDs.
As far as I can recall the reasoning we were given had nothing to do with his murderous reign as the power in Iraq but his connection to al-qaeda and possessing WMDs. (both later admitted by the administration as neither being proven)
I don't know who said it was a Bush PR Move, I voted that violence would likely escalate.
Well, I am generally against capital punishment. However, this guy is a mass murderer.
I can look past my views on putting others to death in cases of mass murderers, child killers and such. Saddam happens to be a mass murdering child killer. Hang 'em high.
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"My fellow citizens, at this hour American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.
On my orders, coalition forces have begun striking selected targets of military importance to undermine Saddam Hussein's ability to wage war.
These are opening stages of what will be a broad and concerted campaign.
More than 35 countries are giving crucial support, from the use of naval and air bases, to help with intelligence and logistics, to the deployment of combat units. Every nation in this coalition has chosen to bear the duty and share the honor of serving in our common defense.
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That trust is well placed.
The enemies you confront will come to know your skill and bravery. The people you liberate will witness the honorable and decent spirit of the American military.
In this conflict, America faces an enemy who has no regard for conventions of war or rules of morality. Saddam Hussein has placed Iraqi troops and equipment in civilian areas, attempting to use innocent men, women and children as shields for his own military; a final atrocity against his people.
I want Americans and all the world to know that coalition forces will make every effort to spare innocent civilians from harm. A campaign on the harsh terrain of a nation as large as California could be longer and more difficult than some predict. And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable and free country will require our sustained commitment.
We come to Iraq with respect for its citizens, for their great civilization and for the religious faiths they practice. We have no ambition in Iraq, except to remove a threat and restore control of that country to its own people.
I know that the families of our military are praying that all those who serve will return safely and soon.
Million of Americans are praying with you for the safety of your loved ones and for the protection of the innocent.
For your sacrifice, you have the gratitude and respect of the American people and you can know that our forces will be coming home as soon as their work is done.
Our nation enters this conflict reluctantly, yet our purpose is sure. The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder.
We will meet that threat now with our Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard and Marines, so that we do not have to meet it later with armies of firefighters and police and doctors on the streets of our cities.
Now that conflict has come, the only way to limit its duration is to apply decisive force. And I assure you, this will not be a campaign of half measures and we will accept no outcome but victory.
My fellow citizens, the dangers to our country and the world will be overcome. We will pass through this time of peril and carry on the work of peace. We will defend our freedom. We will bring freedom to others. And we will prevail.
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when was saddam overthrown and then captured? recently. there's no statute of limitations mass murder, even if it's been 24 years.
also, i was speaking specifically to his execution. how could that be considered a bush pr move?
If the option does not fit your requirements why are you concerned. By not choosing that option, you refute it. That is what a poll is about. The best fit for your conclusion. All of the options or none of the options are correct. They are a vast array of answers. If you don't think it is a PR move then so be it.
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If the option does not fit your requirements why are you concerned. By not choosing that option, you refute it. That is what a poll is about. The best fit for your conclusion. All of the options or none of the options are correct. They are a vast array of answers. If you don't think it is a PR move then so be it.
am i not allowed to ask why something is considered a viable option? you put it up there because you thought is was plausible, not because you had a shortage of options or something.
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