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Agreeing with sure. Touting them as a political entity when all they are is an actor who shares the same opinion as you makes you an assclown. IMO. And I'm not calling you an assclown Wally just people in general.
Sure seems like you called me an ass clown and that is not a debating tactic, but an insult, which does nothing positive for your credibility. BTW, show me in this thread where I touted him as a political entity. You brought that into the discussion.
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That goes not just both, but every way.
You seemed to have asserted that your way was the correct way.
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You seemed to have asserted that your way was the correct way.
Wow way to completely ignore what I wrote. I specifaclly said I wasn't insulting you and I never once said that you called Penn a political entity. The people who do that however are assclowns.
And IMO my way is the correct way.
But let me guess you are going to tell me how my way isn't correct right? Therefore asserting that your way is.
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Wow way to completely ignore what I wrote. I specifaclly said I wasn't insulting you and I never once said that you called Penn a political entity. The people who do that however are assclowns.
And IMO my way is the correct way.
But let me guess you are going to tell me how my way isn't correct right? Therefore asserting that your way is.
And did you not just assert that Wally's is incorrect?
Taken from the comments section of the link you posted Wally, I've read the quote before but the whole story I found interesting:
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same way in any country."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
The quote cited above does not appear in transcripts of the Nuremberg trials because although Goering spoke these words during the course of the proceedings, he did not offer them at his trial. His comments were made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later published in the book Nuremberg Diary. The quote offered above was part of a conversation Gilbert held with a dejected Hermann Goering in his cell on the evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials were halted for a three-day Easter recess.
Gilbert recorded Goering's observations that the common people can always be manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by their political leaders:
We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
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