January 18th, 2005, 03:59 PM
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Unconscionable
"President Bush said that the public's decision to reelect him was a ratification of his approach to Iraq and that there was no reason to hold anyone accountable for mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath." Washinton Post, 1/16/2005
To quote David Letterman....
WHAT????? WHAT???
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January 18th, 2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleChris
"President Bush said that the public's decision to reelect him was a ratification of his approach to Iraq and that there was no reason to hold anyone accountable for mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath." Washinton Post, 1/16/2005
To quote David Letterman....
WHAT????? WHAT???
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He is frickin delushional.
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January 18th, 2005, 06:02 PM
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Can't wait to hear the right wing spin this one.
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January 18th, 2005, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleChris
"President Bush said that the public's decision to reelect him was a ratification of his approach to Iraq and that there was no reason to hold anyone accountable for mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath." Washinton Post, 1/16/2005
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January 18th, 2005, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleChris
"President Bush said that the public's decision to reelect him was a ratification of his approach to Iraq and that there was no reason to hold anyone accountable for mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath." Washinton Post, 1/16/2005
To quote David Letterman....
WHAT????? WHAT???
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This is a problem? 
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January 18th, 2005, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
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Gee, 40..... I wonder if we substituted "President Clinton" for "President Bush" in that quote, if you'd have the same comment....... 
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January 18th, 2005, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleChris
Gee, 40..... I wonder if we substituted "President Clinton" for "President Bush" in that quote, if you'd have the same comment....... 
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I wonder if the same would apply in reverse?
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January 18th, 2005, 07:18 PM
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I wonder if the same would apply in reverse?
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Yes it would.... A dumb-ass statement is a dumb-ass statement, regardless of who says it...... God knows Kerry had his share....
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January 18th, 2005, 07:20 PM
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Who should we hold accountable?
Hmmmmm?
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January 18th, 2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleChris
Yes it would.... A dumb-ass statement is a dumb-ass statement, regardless of who says it...... God knows Kerry had his share....
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So, no matter who is president our situation doesn't change? Now that I can agree with.
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January 18th, 2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AzCards21
So, no matter who is president our situation doesn't change? Now that I can agree with.
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That's not what I said or meant. I believe everyone should be accountable for their actions, good and bad. Bush made a really stupid statement. Clinton made a stupid statement when he said "I never had sex with that girl." And we can find really dumb stuff from anyone we want, including us.
But you'll have to excuse me if I take particular umbrage at a president that makes such a colossal mistake like Iraq (and the 1000+ deaths and 6000+ injured) and then says we shouldn't hold anyone accountable. To quote Dr. Phil, "what was he thinking???....."
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January 18th, 2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by O
Who should we hold accountable?
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My belief is we start with Bush himself. Rumsfeld and Cheney must bear some responsibility, as must Connie.
Look, as I said before, I spent a number of years in the intelligence community and I flat out guarantee that the CIA, DIA, NSA, AEC, ASA, USG, USAFSS, and State Department could not possibly have gotten Iraq THAT wrong..... So someone, somewhere lied and is lying. Many soldiers died because of it and many more were injured. So we should be finding answers to who and why.
If the right can justify spending 7 years digging up dirt on Bill Clinton (that basically found fellatio that he lied about), don't you think we ought to be investigating this??
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January 18th, 2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
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Ummm...I think people should be held accountable for their actions.
I think we can both agree that Denny Green holding AZ Card players accountable for their play is a good thing.
In the same light, Bush needs to hold some people accountable for the situation in Iraq.
I think we can agree that Iraq operation is not going perfectly.
While almost nothing ever goes 'perfectly' some of it is controlable, and people need to be held accountable if they made a mistake.
In the quote, Bush admits to "mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath", yet basicly states that no one made any mistakes, because he is holding no one responsible or accountable.
Despite saying all this, I would tend/hope to believe that this is just another one of GWB's mis-speaks.
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January 18th, 2005, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleChris
My belief is we start with Bush himself. Rumsfeld and Cheney must bear some responsibility, as must Connie.
Look, as I said before, I spent a number of years in the intelligence community and I flat out guarantee that the CIA, DIA, NSA, AEC, ASA, USG, USAFSS, and State Department could not possibly have gotten Iraq THAT wrong..... So someone, somewhere lied and is lying. Many soldiers died because of it and many more were injured. So we should be finding answers to who and why.
If the right can justify spending 7 years digging up dirt on Bill Clinton (that basically found fellatio that he lied about), don't you think we ought to be investigating this??
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I guess my sarcasm didn't translate as planned.
I agree with everything you've said UncleChris.
Personally, I think the Bush administration is the most morally corrupt administration I have ever witnessed in my fifty plus years.
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January 18th, 2005, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by O
I guess my sarcasm didn't translate as planned.
I agree with everything you've said UncleChris.
Personally, I think the Bush administration is the most morally corrupt administration I have ever witnessed in my fifty plus years.
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That really is some stiff competition for "most morally corrupt" of the last fifty years. I can't declare the Bush administration victor in that area. "Most arrogant", that's what I'd say. I think Johnson and Nixon have to battle it out for most corrupt. Give the edge to Nixon for pure SOB meanness along with deception and coverup.
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