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Originally posted by schutd Its a cool letter. But reads TOO well. Im going to look it up on snopes and check its validity. It reads more like one of those e-mail spma things intended to pull at heart strings. Cool story, just doesnt seem all that real on first read.
Looks like this is false - good hunch, schutd:
Claim: A Marine serving in Bosnia subjected a French officer to a verbal chiding.
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2002]
A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp Bondsteel (Bosnia):
A French Army officer walked up to me in the PX, and told me he thought we (Americans) were a bunch of cowboys and were going to provoke a war. He said if such a thing happens, we wouldn't be able to count on the support of France. I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had come to France's rescue in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and the Cold War, their ingratitude and jealousy was due to surface at some point in the near future anyway. That is why, I said softly, France is a third-rate military power with a socialist economy and a bunch of faggots for soldiers. I additionally told him that America, being a nation of deeds and action, not words, would do whatever it had to do, and France's support was only for show anyway. Just like in ALL NATO exercises, the U.S. would shoulder 85% of the burden, as evidenced by the fact that the French officer was shopping in the American PX, and not the other way around.
He began to get belligerent at that point, and I told him if he would like to, I would meet him outside in front of the Burger King and beat his ass in front of the entire Multinational Brigade East, thus demonstrating that even the smallest American had more fight in him than the average Frenchman.
He called me a barbarian cowboy and walked away in a huff. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Origins: We first began seeing this e-mail in mid-October 2002 when it circulated with no more authorial attribution than "from a Marine Lieutenant Colonel in Bosnia." Not until mid-November 2002, a full month later, did we begin to receive copies signed by "Mary Beth Johnson" (or, in some cases, "Mary Beth xxxx" or "Mary Beth J."), a "LtCol, USMC." Our experience with researching Internet lore tells us articles start out with their authors clearly identified and through the forwarding process gradually lose proper attribution, but the process does not work in reverse. Previously unattributed articles do not suddenly sprout named authors, so either "Mary Beth Johnson" was simply a name someone added to the end of the piece to make it more humorous, or she's merely a recipient whose signature became attached to the item when she forwarded it on to others.
True or not, this piece was undoubtedly written by a man. A woman is unlikely to descibe the composition of another army (even France's) as "a bunch of faggots for soldiers"; that terminology (and the fear it expresses) are male. Also "thus demonstrating that even the smallest American had more fight in him than the average Frenchman" would be an odd statement for a female soldier to make after having just stood up to a belligerent foreigner; certainly it would have been "more fight in her." All in all, this missive sounds like something penned by someone stateside whose strongest connection with the Marines exists only in his imagination.
(Perhaps the choice of surname is telling. "Johnson" is one of the many slang terms for penis, and the article is an example of rampant "Check out the size of mine, will ya?" posturing. And it's coupled with "Mary Beth," an undeniably feminine name that conjures up images of sweet country girls in print dresses; the very opposite of the tough, professional soldier.)
We figure "Mary Beth" is a Michael or Sam or Douglas, and we're far from convinced the real author is even in the armed services, let alone serving in Bosnia and smartmouthing French officers. A real soldier -- especially one serving in the Balkans -- would know Camp Bondsteel is in Kosovo, not Bosnia.
Barbara "lafayette to be convinced" Mikkelson
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Nice flashback on the warmongers on this Board and how they were duped into believing there were WMD. 1,200 or so dead soldiers and 100,000 dead Iraqui's later. What a shame.
Nice flashback on the warmongers on this Board and how they were duped into believing there were WMD. 1,200 or so dead soldiers and 100,000 dead Iraqui's later. What a shame.
There should be a rule against people, who were never here for the discussion, to bring up a discussion to just start a fight.
This is old.......
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No. But, if he was here when we discussed this issue then he would not be asking. Actually, I am glad that we took out Saddam, that we have flattened Faluja (sp). I could careless for the reason.
And, if Iran keeps it up we go there next.
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No. But, if he was here when we discussed this issue then he would not be asking. Actually, I am glad that we took out Saddam, that we have flattened Faluja (sp). I could careless for the reason.
Reports are that Hussein has begun distributing chemical weapons to use on our troops. You know, those weapons he doesn't have? They won't be effective though.
We'll be victorious and we'll find so much more in the WOMD category than anyone can imagine. I also believe we'll find all sorts of proof as to just why countries like France are opposed to us finding out the truth.
these two comments are just cracking me up right now. Especially the one where you're being a msart-ass saying "you know - the weapons he doesn't have" part. I still want to know what the Republicans who were bashing the Germans for not going along with us think their reason was? They weren't implicated in the Oil-For-Food Scandal - so what gives?
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these two comments are just cracking me up right now. Especially the one where you're being a msart-ass saying "you know - the weapons he doesn't have" part. I still want to know what the Republicans who were bashing the Germans for not going along with us think their reason was? They weren't implicated in the Oil-For-Food Scandal - so what gives?
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this one's a screamer also.
You joined this forum back in jan 2003. Where are your insights to this thread? More specifically - during the time this thread was generated?
You joined this forum back in jan 2003. Where are your insights to this thread? More specifically - during the time this thread was generated?
I was in Day ten of my Me and my one outfit versus Europe ten day tour, attending an an Anti-War rally in Amsterdam on this day. Sorry - after getting all my stuff stolen on day one of the trip I wasn't gonna go pay two dollars of precious money to use the internet and chat on this message board.
Hmmm, Amsterdam - Bob's Ghetto Youth Hostel.
If you want to see the pictures, I can try to see if I still have them on snapfish.
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Sorry to target you cheesy - but these acidic tones taken by posters on both sides of the fence gets to be annoying to read.
Going through and reading the recent posts where some folks are playing monday morning quarterback against others is also pretty weak imo.
D - I just never saw these that's all. I didn't believe - especially the one about being welcomed with opened arms - was really believed by anyone - and the only reason the administration were saying those things was because they felt liek they had to go to war.
And it's not Monday Morning QB'ing if you voice your concerns at the time something was going on. Honestly - If someone's gonna make sarcastic comments towards a whole bunch of people implying that we didn't know what we were talking about - and it's the first time I see it - I'm gonna call them on it.
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