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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:18 PM   #1
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Two Planes Hijacked and Went Down in Russia


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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:30 PM   #2
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This sucks. Two days before the election in Chechnya. So much for Chechnya....
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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:34 PM   #3
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If this truely was a hijacking.... I would think that between this and what occured in Spain, it is a major foreshadow of what America should expect leading up to our presidential election.....
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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:43 PM   #4
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I wonder if Putin will be sensitive on terror?
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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:44 PM   #5
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One thing about it. The Russians don't suffer the constraints we do. If they catch the culprits, they will dispatch them in a manner that will cause great pain to the culprits and send a real message to any further terrorists.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:47 PM   #6
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One thing about it. The Russians don't suffer the constraints we do. If they catch the culprits, they will dispatch them in a manner that will cause great pain to the culprits and send a real message to any further terrorists.
If the planes were hijacked, the culprits are dead.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 09:50 PM   #7
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If the planes were hijacked, the culprits are dead.
I'm talking about the ones who planned it.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 10:00 PM   #8
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More Terrorist?

http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=10696165


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Aug 24 2004 9:41PM
Police suspect Moscow bus stop blast was terrorist attack
MOSCOW. Aug 24 (Interfax) - A senior police source said the bomb explosion at a bus stop in Moscow on Tuesday evening may have been a terrorist attack.

"The power of the explosive device was equivalent to more than 150 grams of trotyl [TNT]. The explosive device was stuffed with shrapnel," the source, who is an official with the city police authority, told Interfax.

He said the bomb went off at the moment when a bus was leaving the stop.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 10:05 PM   #9
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I don't see how this is a bigger tragedy than the theater hostage situation ahwile back. The one in which 100 hostages died etc.

Honestly this won't change the election at all since it's been fixed since the former "President" of Chechnya was blown up. Perhaps it will force Russia to finally go into that area en masse and lay the law down since pulling out isn't an option.

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Old August 24th, 2004, 10:29 PM   #10
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I don't see how this is a bigger tragedy than the theater hostage situation ahwile back. The one in which 100 hostages died etc.

Honestly this won't change the election at all since it's been fixed since the former "President" of Chechnya was blown up. Perhaps it will force Russia to finally go into that area en masse and lay the law down since pulling out isn't an option.

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The theater situation still bothers me. They were so close to getting it done perfectly...then completely f'd it up.

I agree with your second paragraph, too. It's gonna be ugly. I just it hope it stops in Chechnya and doesn't spread to some of the other rebel areas.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 10:43 PM   #11
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I don't see how this is a bigger tragedy than the theater hostage situation ahwile back. The one in which 100 hostages died etc.

Honestly this won't change the election at all since it's been fixed since the former "President" of Chechnya was blown up. Perhaps it will force Russia to finally go into that area en masse and lay the law down since pulling out isn't an option.

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I don't know how much more "en masse" they can get. There's been some damn hard fighting there over the last five years. I think the problem is not the number of their troops, but they are too poorly equipped and trained.
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Old August 24th, 2004, 11:14 PM   #12
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I am sure if things get bad enough over there, the World Police, otherwise known as the US, will get involved, if we're not already.
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I don't know how much more "en masse" they can get. There's been some damn hard fighting there over the last five years. I think the problem is not the number of their troops, but they are too poorly equipped and trained.
I stand corrected. There are just under 100,000 Russian troops/special police in Chechnya which has a population of around 1.2 million. I guess this puts Iraq into perspective considering its 20+ million and we only have 130,000 troops for the entire country. I think we might start seeing headlines with the words Chechnya and ethinic cleansing in them. That or they will go back to their original policy of displacement which has worked in the past.

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I am sure if things get bad enough over there, the World Police, otherwise known as the US, will get involved, if we're not already.
Hmm, I doubt it. We'd have to get Russian authorization first, IMO, to avoid a major disaster and possible war, which could happen if we intervene uninvited. And trust me, Russia won't authorize us.
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Old August 25th, 2004, 08:31 AM   #15
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Hmm, I doubt it. We'd have to get Russian authorization first, IMO, to avoid a major disaster and possible war, which could happen if we intervene uninvited. And trust me, Russia won't authorize us.
yeah, i'm not seeing the Russkies asking us for help any time soon. call it a hunch...
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