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Old October 25th, 2006, 05:51 AM   #1
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Troops Petition Congress for Iraq Withdrawal


Grass-Roots Group of Troops Petitions Congress for Pullout From Iraq




By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 25, 2006; Page A13


More than 100 U.S. service members have signed a rare appeal urging Congress to support the "prompt withdrawal" of all American troops and bases from Iraq, organizers said yesterday.
"Staying in Iraq will not work and is not worth the price. It is time for U.S. troops to come home," reads the statement of a small grass-roots group of active-duty military personnel and reservists that says it aims to give U.S. military members a voice in Iraq war policy.

"As a patriotic American proud to serve the nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of American military forces and bases from Iraq," it reads. The group, which aims to collect 2,000 signatures and deliver the message to Congress in January, is sponsored by antiwar activists including Iraq Veterans Against the War, Veterans for Peace and Military Families Speak Out.

The unusual appeal -- the first of its kind in the Iraq war, organizers say -- makes use of a legal protection afforded by the Military Whistle-Blower Protection Act, which provides that members of the military, acting in their capacity as citizens, can send a protected communication to Congress without reprisal.

"Just because you put on the uniform of our country doesn't mean you've given up your rights as a citizen," said J.E. McNeil, a lawyer for the group and executive director for the Center on Conscience & War, a Washington organization that protects the rights of conscientious objectors.
But the service members can exercise this right only while off duty and out of uniform, and they must otherwise make clear they are not speaking for the military. In addition, they cannot say anything disrespectful about their commanders, including the president, McNeil said.
Navy Seaman Jonathan Hutto of Atlanta was the first service member to sign the appeal.

"I hear discussions every day among my shipmates about the war in Iraq and how it doesn't make any sense at this point," said Hutto, who is based in Norfolk and served from September 2005 until March on a ship off Iraq's coast. "There is no victory in sight, and war is still inevitable." He said he opposes the war because of its human and economic tolls, adding that the billions of dollars should be spent on jobs and education at home.

Marine Corps Sgt. Liam Madden, 22, served in Iraq's restive Anbar province from September 2004 until February 2005 and found his opposition to the war intensified after he returned to the United States. "I don't think any more Iraqis or Americans should die because of the U.S. occupation," he said, expressing disappointment that Iraqi elections in January 2005 did not lead to a decline in violence.

"I think some things are worth fighting for, I just don't feel Iraq is one of them," said Madden, of Bellows Falls, Vt. The Quantico-based Marine plans to leave the service to attend college in January.
Madden said he and Hutton met and learned of the vehicle for expressing their views to Congress when they attended a lecture at the YMCA in Norfolk by David Cortright, the author of "Soldiers in Revolt: GI Resistance During the Vietnam War."
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Old October 25th, 2006, 06:54 AM   #2
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Old October 25th, 2006, 07:07 AM   #3
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The troops don't support the troops! They must hate America.

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Old October 25th, 2006, 07:26 AM   #4
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I imagine that "planned withdrawal" formerly known as "cut and run" is not too far off.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 11:48 AM   #5
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Old October 25th, 2006, 11:59 AM   #6
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I imagine that "planned withdrawal" formerly known as "cut and run" is not too far off.
Exactly!

Sounds like this administration were against it before they were for it on ideas from the left.

Department of Homeland Security and going after OBL are other glaring examples.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 12:05 PM   #7
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Some solid evidence of what occures when you lower enlistment standards.
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Some solid evidence of what occures when you lower enlistment standards.
That post plus your avatar. Very funny, Swd!!
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Old October 25th, 2006, 12:22 PM   #9
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This just in....

President Bush remained steadfast in our country's plan to stay..."We're winning and we will win, unless we leave before the job is done," he said."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061025/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

President Bush also asked why are people so concerned with Iraq, and then he reiterated these comments...

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Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.
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We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous. We are pursuing and finding leaders of the old regime, who will be held to account for their crimes. We have begun the search for hidden chemical and biological weapons, and already know of hundreds of sites that will be investigated. We are helping to rebuild Iraq, where the dictator built palaces for himself, instead of hospitals and schools. And we will stand with the new leaders of Iraq as they establish a government of, by, and for the Iraqi people. The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done. And then we will leave — and we will leave behind a free Iraq.
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The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We have removed an ally of al-Qaida, and cut off a source of terrorist funding. And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more.
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He's still claiming Saddam was an ally of al-Qaeda, huh?
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He's still claiming Saddam was an ally of al-Qaeda, huh?
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We are helping to rebuild Iraq, where the dictator built palaces for himself, instead of hospitals and schools.


....and the Iraqis were nomads and tent dwellers prior to the invasion
. Not a hospital nor a school to be found. Damn it George, these people are Persians. They were practicing medicine and science, thousands of years ago. This caricature of a camel riding bedouin towel head may be your vision of an Iraqi, but that is not acceptable for anyone with common sense. The hospitals and schools that are not being built ny American contractors are supposed to replace the ones that were bombed off the face of the Earth by Bushco.
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Is that why the ancient artifacts disappeared? To make it look like the Iraqis were Borat-like?
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Old October 25th, 2006, 01:23 PM   #13
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I must be confused, I thought our fowl hunting VP had conceded that there was no AQ - Sadam connection
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They have a video of this topic on cnn.com.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 07:14 PM   #15
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Perhaps the petition would be more effective if it accused U.S. soldiers of razing Iraqi villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.
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