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Old March 7th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #1
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Top global weapons dealer busted


It sure seems like things are breaking apart for at least some of the bad guys -- Victor Bout has long been considered a truly crucial top-level player in global weapons and smuggling to nations and terrorists, and was arrested in Thailand this week after an elaborate sting coordinated by US Agents.

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According to the Drug Enforcement Agency’s press release, international arms-trafficker extraordinaire Victor Bout was arrested for plotting to sell weapons to the FARC - not knowing that the reputed FARC representatives were in fact working for the DEA. Only nine months ago another notorious international arms dealer, Monzer al-Kasser was arrested for conspiring to sell weapons (and trainers) to the FARC (and offered to build them an army) when in fact the FARC buyers were DEA operatives.
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It did not take the Russian government long to the Russian government friends and lawyers for the recently-arrested Viktor Boutto begin working to protect him again.

The tactic now is to seek the extradition of Bout, arrested in Thailand in an elaborate sting operation run by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), back to Russia, rather than the United States.

Of course, Bout, who has armed rebels, criminals and terrorists from the Taliban in Afghanistan to the RUF in Sierra Leone to the FARC in Colombia, has always operated under the protection of Russian military intelligence.

Sending him home is setting him free, without ever going to trial. There are no charges against him in Russia and Russia, although a member of Interpol has, since 2002, ignored an Interpol arrest warrant issued at the behest of the Belgians.

Bout is a valuable commodity to the Russian services (as he has been a useful commodity to the U.S. Defense Department, the British military, the United Nations etc. etc.), and know where many, many skeletons are buried.

There must be a degree of panic among parts of the Russian intel structure that Bout could sink them all if he is not brought back home.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #2
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Good thing WE don't have anyone doing anything like Bout...


Seriously, though..... Glad they got him. It doesn't solve the problem by any means, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 05:35 AM   #3
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Damn it. I thought the news was about Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Textron, Grumman, Unted Technologies, General Electric, Colt, et al.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 07:26 AM   #4
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Damn it. I thought the news was about Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Textron, Grumman, Unted Technologies, General Electric, Colt, et al.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 07:54 AM   #5
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Sorry Wally, shoulda said 'top illegal weapons dealer busted.'
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Old March 8th, 2008, 06:27 PM   #6
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Sorry Wally, shoulda said 'top illegal weapons dealer busted.'
My expectations were too high.
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It's Lord of War come to life. Which came first I wonder?
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Bout has been out there for decades. I'm sure he came first.
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It's Lord of War come to life. Which came first I wonder?
Actually this one did.
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I still highly recommend Lord of War to anyone. Outstanding commentary on arms dealing.
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Russia Appealing to State Department to Free Bout
By Douglas Farah

Well, that did not take long. According to my sources, confirmed by Bill Gertz in the Washington Times, Russia is actively seeking to get the State Department to help spring Viktor Bout from his Thai prison home.

One of the reasons the DEA held its sting operation that led to Bout's arrest so close to the chest was precisely because the agents understood the high risk of political interference in the case.

There is a strong desire in the State Department, derived partly as a legitimate function of the department's role, to seek to pacify other nations and make sure that they like us.

This institutional tendency is in play in an effort to engage the new Russian government on a variety of issues.

The argument is that there are other, larger issues at stake if the U.S. pushes Bout's extradition to the U.S. and a trial here. Better to suffer the short-term humiliation of finding a way to free him (and likely blame the Thais) than the long-term humiliation of having him expose his ties to numerous governments while carrying out his bloody business.

The counter-argument is that this is a high profile case that has the potential to show America's willingness to end impunity for transnational criminal figures, even if it means the pain of some unsavory revelations.
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The counter-argument is that this is a high profile case that has the potential to show America's willingness to end impunity for transnational criminal figures, even if it means the pain of some unsavory revelations.
An idealistic statement that breaks my heart knowing we have no such backbone. We'd rather cast shadows on our credibility and show our guns to dare anyone to question our judgment.

I'm guessing DEA cuts a deal for information on stuff Russians know about but don't care about in exchange for releasing the arms dealer. Any guesses to how many CIA operatives are now infiltrating the DEA to gather (then cut off) information?
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At least they could kill the guy, not let him loose. Given how much he knows, I wonder how he's being interrogated.
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