Enjoy an Ads-Free ASFN - lighter and faster too! Become an ASFN-Contributor and help support the site.
Go Back   Arizona Sports Fans Network > Other Stuff > Politics and Religion

Welcome to ASFN Fan Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old August 26th, 2004, 02:29 PM   #1
cheesebeef
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,940
A$FN: 6,085

This would be great . . .


but there's no way in hell the Reps would ever let it happen with Bush up there on an island.

Weekly Debates

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...el_pr/kerry_18

Kerry's listing of Bush's flip-flops was pretty interesting - all of us know them - I just find it funny that most Reps don't see that same inherent quality in Bush as they do Kerry - ALL POLITICIANS FLIP-FLOP - to use the term as some kind of distinguishing remark is like saying Kerry breathes - no sh*t he's human (well - I think he is - although he reminds me of Herman Munster.)

But again - if this is a race of two guys battling it out for our country -wouldn't it be nice to see them actually debate the issues - so we can get pasts ALL the nonsense with 527s - rock stars (Alice Cooper or the Boss) and the rest of the junk that's floating out there. It would also be great to see the people ask questions - rather than have a set of softball questions that both candidates can drone on about and bore us to death with.
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
__________________
Rubarb is what makes my feet look cheese!

Watch Cheesebeef's Short Films on YOUTUBE!

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4GFsybUwg

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUvI-VLklZM
cheesebeef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2004, 03:49 PM   #2
AzCards21
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: What?
Posts: 14,151
A$FN: 50
Blog Entries: 1
Running for Prez should be like an Olympic triatholon or Miss America pageant.

Day-1 Debates on your positions.
Day-2 Arm wrestling
Day-3 The opening of all past records including medical, military and police.
Day-4 Fishing contest
Day-5 Shooting contest
Day-6 Roshambo
Day-7 Final arguments and then we vote.

One week, start to finish. Seems like plenty of time the rest of the months leading up to the election are BS anyway and this should tell us all we need to know about these guys.
AzCards21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2004, 04:07 PM   #3
Evil Ash
God of War
 
Evil Ash's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Fallen from Mt. Olympus
Posts: 6,735
A$FN: 22,120
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesebeef
but there's no way in hell the Reps would ever let it happen with Bush up there on an island.

Weekly Debates

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...el_pr/kerry_18

Kerry's listing of Bush's flip-flops was pretty interesting - all of us know them - I just find it funny that most Reps don't see that same inherent quality in Bush as they do Kerry - ALL POLITICIANS FLIP-FLOP - to use the term as some kind of distinguishing remark is like saying Kerry breathes - no sh*t he's human (well - I think he is - although he reminds me of Herman Munster.)
The problem that most people have with Kerry isn't that he just flip-flops (like you said all politicians flip-flop), its the amount of times he changes sides on an issue. The perception that many people have of Kerry is he changes his mind with regularity.

The things that he has done thus far on his campaign trail has changed that perception (ie acting like he is against the war in Iraq and then making his "knowing what I know now" statement). The majority of his support isn't really for him, its just against Bush. Unless its something incredibly stupid, they don't really care what the hell he says.

BTW For those that want to go after me for pointing out his perceived flip-flop on the war on Iraq, let me repeat its perceived. I don't know whats going on in his head so I don't really know whether he changed his mind or not.

In the eyes of many people he flip-flopped (including some very liberal voters) and this is a big deal because during an election campaign PERCEPTION can decide the outcome of an election.

Quote:
But again - if this is a race of two guys battling it out for our country -wouldn't it be nice to see them actually debate the issues - so we can get pasts ALL the nonsense with 527s - rock stars (Alice Cooper or the Boss) and the rest of the junk that's floating out there. It would also be great to see the people ask questions - rather than have a set of softball questions that both candidates can drone on about and bore us to death with.
That would be nice but it appears that it won't happen. I think both parties have come to the realization that neither of their candidates are going to win this election by their own means because of how flawed they both are.

They have no choice other than to beat down on their opponent and build themselves up beause they know this a "lesser of 2 evils" election
__________________
Hellboy: You're in love. You need a beer.
Abe: I can't. My body is a temple.
Hellboy: Well, now its an amusement park.
Evil Ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2004, 04:07 PM   #4
cheesebeef
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,940
A$FN: 6,085
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzCards21
Running for Prez should be like an Olympic triatholon or Miss America pageant.

Day-1 Debates on your positions.
Day-2 Arm wrestling
Day-3 The opening of all past records including medical, military and police.
Day-4 Fishing contest
Day-5 Shooting contest
Day-6 Roshambo
Day-7 Final arguments and then we vote.

One week, start to finish. Seems like plenty of time the rest of the months leading up to the election are BS anyway and this should tell us all we need to know about these guys.
if they put on it FX so there could be swearing - I'd watch it.
__________________
Rubarb is what makes my feet look cheese!

Watch Cheesebeef's Short Films on YOUTUBE!

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4GFsybUwg

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUvI-VLklZM
cheesebeef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2004, 04:10 PM   #5
AzCards21
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: What?
Posts: 14,151
A$FN: 50
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesebeef
if they put on it FX so there could be swearing - I'd watch it.
Yeah, Roshambo with bleeped out words would ruin the whole thing.
AzCards21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2004, 09:22 PM   #6
40yearfan
Takin' a bite outa the Niners
 
40yearfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Buckeye, AZ.
Posts: 24,194
A$FN: 7,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzCards21
Running for Prez should be like an Olympic triatholon or Miss America pageant.

Day-1 Debates on your positions.
Day-2 Arm wrestling
Day-3 The opening of all past records including medical, military and police.
Day-4 Fishing contest
Day-5 Shooting contest
Day-6 Roshambo
Day-7 Final arguments and then we vote.

One week, start to finish. Seems like plenty of time the rest of the months leading up to the election are BS anyway and this should tell us all we need to know about these guys.

If I were running for president, I'd have to disagree with your day 3 proposal. If someone ever dug into my past, I couldn't get elected as county dogcatcher.
__________________
“So I became a newspaperman. I hated to do it but I couldn’t find honest employment.” —Mark Twain
40yearfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:05 AM.



Subscribe in a reader
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright © 2002 - 2006 ArizonaSportsFans.com
Inactive Reminders By Icora Web Design