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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:08 AM   #1
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This one has stink on it.


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Oops! Four Republicans on Panel Investigating DeLay Took Money From Him
By Staff and Wire Reports
Jul 16, 2004, 08:23
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Four of the five House ethics committee Republicans investigating Majority Leader Tom DeLay have accepted money in the past from the fund-raising operation involved in the complaint against him.
While leaders in both parties maintain organizations to raise money for candidates, the appearance of a conflict in DeLay's case is enough alone to warrant hiring an independent counsel of the type that investigated dethroned former speakers Jim Wright and Newt Gingrich, watchdog groups said Thursday.

"Mr. DeLay's stature as one of the most powerful members of Congress - with the capacity to extract retribution from anyone - makes it especially difficult for his peers to sit in judgment of him," said Common Cause president Chellie Pingree.

DeLay, who has denied the charges against him, said through a spokesman that an independent counsel is unnecessary. "We have full confidence the ethics committee will handle this in a proper manner," said aide Jonathan Grella.

The Texas Republican's political action committee, Americans for a Republican Majority, or ARMPAC, contributed $38,731 to four standing ethics committee members in the 1994 to 2004 election cycles, according the Center for Responsive Politics and PoliticalMoneyLine, groups that track political money.

Ethics committee members who got money include Doc Hastings of Washington, $5,930; Judy Biggert of Illinois, $1,764; Kenny Hulshof of Missouri, $14,964; and Steven LaTourette of Ohio, $16,073. Rep. Joel Hefley, R-Colo., the ethics panel's chairman, did not receive any contributions from ARMPAC during the period.

In 2001, DeLay used $75,000 from ARMPAC to establish another campaign cash chest, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC).

Rep. Chris Bell, D-Texas, filed a complaint last month charging that DeLay illegally solicited and accepted political contributions from Kansas-based Westar Corp. for TRMPAC in return for legislative favors.

Bell's complaint also alleges that DeLay abused his office by getting the Federal Aviation Administration and FBI agents to help track down Texas Democratic legislators when they left the state to prevent Republicans from passing a redistricting bill DeLay wanted. Bell was defeated in a March primary for re-election after he was redistricted.

Hefley expressed confidence that the Republicans on his committee who received money from DeLay's political committee would not be influenced by the contributions - a view echoed by two of the four GOP recipients.

"I know them well," Hefley said Thursday. "I don't have any question that they will do a fair and honorable job, without letting the contributions affect their judgment." But he also said he would support hiring an independent counsel if there was an "overwhelming reason."

The watchdog groups said the ethics cloud over DeLay's head can be removed only through an independent counsel.

His "political opponents would be deflated and accusations of partisanship on the part of the (ethics) committee would be meritless," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics.

Grella and another DeLay aide attended a news conference by the watchdog groups. They handed out lists of contributions by leaders of watchdog groups to Democrats, and contributions from Democratic leaders to Democrats on the ethics panel.

"It's worth noting that we're in the summer of the election year and this is the Democrats' strategy. They don't have any policy or accomplishments or agenda to speak of, so they are going to stick to politics of personal destruction," Grella said.

The ethics committee, officially known as the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, is reviewing Bell's complaint. It has to decide by early August whether to launch a formal investigation, dismiss the complaint or take more time reviewing it.

Last week, DeLay hired attorney Ed Bethune, a former Arkansas congressman who represented Gingrich in his ethics case. Bethune, a former FBI agent, prosecutor and lobbyist, previously represented DeLay in a fund-raising lawsuit filed by Democrats in 2000.

A Texas district attorney also is investigating whether Republicans funneled corporate contributions to Texas' 2002 House races through DeLay's TRMPAC. Texas law prohibits corporations from contributing to state legislative races. Prosecutors have said DeLay is not a target of that investigation.
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:20 AM   #2
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Yep, let's spend some more taxpayers money because of a disgruntled candidate who couldn't win an election.
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:27 AM   #3
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Seriously 40. Do you just get joy out of rubber stamp killing a thread. There is absolutely no insight in your response. The Pollyanna attitude is real old. There are real problems out there and maybe, just maybe, they are real. This forum is supposed to be for exchange of ideas and discussion. I imagine it should be a mental exercise where an issue might stimulate someone to give a crap or at least research the issue.

" Waste of Taxpayer's money ". " Disgruntled loser". What is that about?
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:32 AM   #4
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Yep, let's spend some more taxpayers money because of a disgruntled candidate who couldn't win an election.
Isn't Chris Bell currently in Congress?
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:36 AM   #5
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Bell was defeated in a March primary for re-election after he was redistricted.
Not according to the article Wally posted.
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Jeez 40, don't be afraid to mix in a fact or two along the way.

http://bell.house.gov/hor/tx25/home.htm
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Seriously 40. Do you just get joy out of rubber stamp killing a thread. There is absolutely no insight in your response. The Pollyanna attitude is real old. There are real problems out there and maybe, just maybe, they are real. This forum is supposed to be for exchange of ideas and discussion. I imagine it should be a mental exercise where an issue might stimulate someone to give a crap or at least research the issue.

" Waste of Taxpayer's money ". " Disgruntled loser". What is that about?
Wally,

Maybe you have in the past, I don't know but I will ask anyways....

Do you ever post an article that is critical of anything that is not Republican?
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Old July 16th, 2004, 08:44 AM   #8
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Seriously 40. Do you just get joy out of rubber stamp killing a thread. There is absolutely no insight in your response. The Pollyanna attitude is real old. There are real problems out there and maybe, just maybe, they are real. This forum is supposed to be for exchange of ideas and discussion. I imagine it should be a mental exercise where an issue might stimulate someone to give a crap or at least research the issue.

" Waste of Taxpayer's money ". " Disgruntled loser". What is that about?
Wally this is partisan politics and a sore loser trying to extract revenge. As is becoming very typical with this nation, blame someone else for your shortcomings. Political issues like this happen in every state. Arizona was re-districted not too long ago and we had the same crying and complaining. In Democratically controlled states the Democrats use politics to gain an advantage and in Republican controlled states the Republicans use politics to gain an advantage. It's inheirant in our way of goverment.

I am not trying to make light of you Wally. I respect your views, but I just don't feel this is a big deal.
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but I just don't feel this is a big deal.
Just like you don't think Chris Bell is a current member of Congress?
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Just like you don't think Chris Bell is a current member of Congress?
nickle, I could give a crap less about what his status is. The only thing I know about this issue is what I read in the article Wally posted and it says he lost his bid for re-election. Read my posts. This isn't a big deal. It happens all the time.
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Tom Delay is someone any decent person should be ashamed of. His dirty tricks/strong arm tactics are an embarassment to Democracy. He runs the house like a third-world petty dictatorship. I challenge the Republicans on this board to open-mindedly take a look at his record, and everything he does. Slime oozes from every pore on his body.

You think Wally and I are partisan? Tom Delay makes both of us look like the model of bi-partisanship.
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nickle, I could give a crap less about what his status is.
Facts be damed!
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Hmmm, you must be a Democrat.
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Hmmm, you must be a Democrat.
Based on the factual nature of most of your posts, one must wonder.
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Based on the factual nature of most of your posts, one must wonder.
At least my posts make sense. Something that can't always be said for yours.
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