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Meh. I think both sides could avoid this argument if, when disputed courses are concerned, just offer a test that will either certify or dismiss the applicant in those areas. If they are learning every facet, a test would reflect that. If they were learning the equivalent of underwater basketweaving, a test would reflect that as well.
Assuming the video is correct and given the content I see little wiggle room, then there are learning the equivalent of underwater basket weaving.
If you want a religious education I have no problem with that, none at all. Just don't expect the secular world to take it as anything other than religious.
As I said it the kids I feel sorry for. Their parents have enrolled them in a school that doesn't adequately prepare them for a non religious job or course of study. There is no way around this.
No in the case of the girl her grades appeared to be high enough that she will make it, even after the non accredited courses are removed.
Personally I agree about a standardized test [in the UK you have to pass A levels] unfortunately nobody can agree on the test. All that would happen is for the battleground to change, the religious schools would complain that the test wasn't fair to their idea of science.
It just seems their goal is to brainwash these kids so they parrot the "we have been exposed to all theories" line. When what they have actually done is to present invalid information to them, that being that ID and Creationism are science ... which they are not.
I saw the report on tv, and they were interviewing some students.
I found it funny when the girl spouted the right wing propaganda phrase, well since they are teaching us Intelligent Design, we are getting a more broader education than others, indicating it was better. If you look at here body language, it was like she knew without a doubt the way she was taught was better than anyone else.
No, you just spent time learning about right wing theory instead of actual science, meaning you probably didn't learn something you should of learned like the center of the universe isn't the earth. (ok bad time to take a shot).
I have no problem with religious schooling, just one has to realize if you take time to learn that, you take time away others are learning secular information. So if you spend 2 hours a day on religious studies, and only leave 3 for non-religious, while a secular school spends 5 hours on non-religous, then you see, if everything is equal, they either have to rush through or skip a huge portion of instruction, or make it up by making the school day a couple of hours longer.
One need only look at Monica Goodling (graduate of Regent University..a religious college) to see what happens when someone incorporates the religious part too much into their work. I personally like the quote of someone saying they admire Condolezza Rice, and Goodling replies, 'but she's pro-choice'. Assuredly taking that candidate off the list. Amazing how far it goes, that even your 'own' people aren't good enough. Where does it stop? Catastrophe usually.
If left unchecked, or if they believe the sort of 'broader education' bull it appears they seem to be teaching, then we could very easily find hundreds of Monica Goodling's acting unethical and hurting America, while thinking their something don't stink and they are doing right.
Have belief (or don't if you wish), but don't believe everything you read or see and think it excuses you. I guess part of what they skipped for Goodling was a class on business ethics.
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I guess I don't get it.
If you want to get a "christian perspective education", then you need to prove you gained the knowledge necessary to attend a secular university, otherwise just go to a christian one. Why should any school be forced to give credit to material that is outside the scope of their instruction?
I guess I don't get it.
If you want to get a "christian perspective education", then you need to prove you gained the knowledge necessary to attend a secular university, otherwise just go to a christian one. Why should any school be forced to give credit to material that is outside the scope of their instruction?
Because it is about tuition revenue?
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One thing UCLA doesn't have a problem with is students wanting to pay them tuition. They are notoriously selective. I had a student who entered Harvard last year (and did quite well!) who was NOT granted admission to UCLA. She wouldn't have gone to UCLA over Harvard, but that was a surprise! She also got admitted at Penn and Columbia.
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One thing UCLA doesn't have a problem with is students wanting to pay them tuition. They are notoriously selective. I had a student who entered Harvard last year (and did quite well!) who was NOT granted admission to UCLA. She wouldn't have gone to UCLA over Harvard, but that was a surprise! She also got admitted at Penn and Columbia.
I was being a bit facetious, but... follow the money!
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You want a particular type of education that is fine. Then go to a school that teaches that type of education.
But don't ask UCLA to and everywhere to change because of a minorities belief.
On a personal note pretentious religious idiots piss me off.
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II have no problem with religious schooling, just one has to realize if you take time to learn that, you take time away others are learning secular information. So if you spend 2 hours a day on religious studies, and only leave 3 for non-religious, while a secular school spends 5 hours on non-religous, then you see, if everything is equal, they either have to rush through or skip a huge portion of instruction, or make it up by making the school day a couple of hours longer.
Well doesn't that make sense?
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