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Old September 15th, 2006, 06:04 AM   #1
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The Diebold Voting-Machine Hack


The Diebold Voting-Machine Hack
http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/14/212257&from=rss
They Said it Couldn't be Done: Diebold Voting-Machine Hack Announced at SD Best Practices
http://www.ddj.com/dept/security/193000399
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Old September 15th, 2006, 06:53 AM   #2
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Thanks for the links. Is anyone suprised at this?
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Old September 15th, 2006, 08:27 AM   #3
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Only that its not much bigger news.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 09:35 AM   #4
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I think the people and media are afraid of revisiting the 2004 election, so let's not do that.

I'll just ask the "conservatives" or anyone on this board, should changes be made for FUTURE elections in our reliance on these voting machines?
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Old September 15th, 2006, 09:39 AM   #5
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Some thinktanker yesterday was saying there's no need for a REAL paper-trail, because by storing the vote data electronically, we can 'recreate' a paper trail anytime. The person who was demanding 'hard-copy' ballots was left almost speechless at that, but pointed out "If you can change the electronic vote then the 'recreated' paper vote will reflect the tampered vote! Duh!"
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Old September 15th, 2006, 09:41 AM   #6
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Great find, thanks for the link.

I harped on this around the election and basically got yawned at, I think you can see where Diebold being a giant Bush Co backer presents a problem and also answers why this isn't a bigger story.

People are so computer dumb they probably think this is an improvement, this just makes stealing an election go from gigantic coordinated effort down to two people or less.

People told Diebold this was possible before the election, they flatly denied it, and claimed it was impossible, obviously it's not.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 11:10 AM   #7
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I think the people and media are afraid of revisiting the 2004 election, so let's not do that.

I'll just ask the "conservatives" or anyone on this board, should changes be made for FUTURE elections in our reliance on these voting machines?
It was not my intention to revisit any election with this infomation. I posted it as a heads up to those who claimed this a non issue when brought up in the past. I'm curious to hear from them now.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 11:16 AM   #8
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I think the people and media are afraid of revisiting the 2004 election, so let's not do that.

I'll just ask the "conservatives" or anyone on this board, should changes be made for FUTURE elections in our reliance on these voting machines?


what ever is the most reliable and effective method possible is the one i want.
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This sure is effective:

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Old September 18th, 2006, 03:39 PM   #10
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Old September 18th, 2006, 03:43 PM   #11
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Just read that on digg.com did ye?
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Old September 18th, 2006, 03:51 PM   #12
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Just read that on digg.com did ye?
Are you doubting the veracity of the report?
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Old September 18th, 2006, 03:51 PM   #13
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OK, I got a question. Why would the people handling the voting machines change the memory cards from one machine to another? That's the only way the virus could spread as these machines aren't hooked together. The memory cards might be switched in between elections, but if that is done, the malicious software is no longer pertinent.

It seems to me that each machine would have to be tampered with and that's not a very likely scenario.
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Are you doubting the veracity of the report?
No, this was an article they just posted on that website.... I noticed Klod posts a lot of stuff off of there. The inner-net is a small place
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Old September 18th, 2006, 04:09 PM   #15
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No, this was an article they just posted on that website.... I noticed Klod posts a lot of stuff off of there. The inner-net is a small place

I've never been to the site you suggest.
I get notices from a group through the Univeristy C.S. department.
What else (besides this thread) have I posted from that site? I rarely post anything from anywhere.
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